How to Drop the Ego — Mooji

”Mooji, Can You Please Help Me to Drop the Ego” 6 April 2026 (with subtitles) Q: I have an emergency, Mooji. M: Yeah. Q: First of all, a lot of respect and gratitude to you Q: for all your teachings. M: Yeah, mutually. Q: Can you please help me to drop the ego? M: Hmm-hmm. Q: Maybe I can describe, Q: also for the people that are listening, M: Yes. Q: where I'm at internally. M: Yes. Q: So, the first evening was very impactful. I could feel the arising, Q: or rather sinking into emptiness. M: Yes. Q: But then a lot of resistance came from my ego. M: Yes. Q: And I felt very frustrated. M: Very important that you say this, because I'm sure it's very relatable. As soon as the door is opening, resistance is coming. Now, the resistance, don't identify with the resistance as 'you'. The resistance is happening to an energy inside. We can call it different names. We can call it maya. We can call it a spirit. We can call it the mind. You can call it our ... Whatever. But that force begins to come up. And I say, you are aware of that force. A deeper power in you is aware of resistance. I said, Don't identify with the resistance. Just learn to observe, to be aware of it, and feel it. But don't interpret, 'Now, see it's blocking me'. And da da da. No, feel that. It's as though, you know ... If you cooperate with the mind, you'll probably not even notice him. Q: I felt like a lot of physical pain. And it felt like it's not possible to get through that obstacle. M: Yes. So if you say, 'I should not feel pain', then you're going to have a problem. If you see that sometimes the pain is ... Put it in your mind that the pain that comes, I didn't give you pain, like this. But it begins to release some trapped pain that had become normalised, so you lived with it. But now in the face of an authentic opportunity, of being delivered from that, or transcending that, or discovering the truth of yourself, this thing, you have shaken it, no? So it comes up and it's a feeling in the body. So I said, Okay, it's on the way out. You're burping out something. So it feels like that. But it can feel like, it's catching the attention. It's trying to hold the identity. Q: The mind is very cunning. M: Yes. Q: Many times I've felt so close to it, I feel. M: The mind is not cunning to the Beingness. Mind is cunning to the person. Mind is not cunning to the Self. For the Self, the mind doesn't exist in the way you think. It's only to the person it becomes a demon, a ghost. He can play like this, because the person itself has a relationship with its own suffering. But you, your True Self, is beyond that. But because of the confusion and not realising that, we are functioning in the identity of the person, who is getting a bit of a beating from the mind and the ego. Like that. Q: I just don't want to slip back to that mind fighting. M: Stay in the place, stay in the place where you put everything on the screen, on the screen of consciousness. You go to watch a movie. All the time, whatever is happening, whether it's a love scene, or a car chase, or a shootout, or whatever is happening, collapsing buildings, whatever it is, you know it's a movie! You know it's a movie. And no matter what the ending, good or bad, afterwards you leave, you go to a burger, or a bar, to have something. It's finished. You are going to come to see life, like a movie. You see, now, some people, I remember that ... I remember one story. There was a soap opera that was going in England for a long, long time called 'EastEnders'. Everybody was watching 'EastEnders'. Even the actors were watching it, this movie, this thing. And there was one character that was very unkind to his wife. He's always cheating, la la la. So, one day, actually, the actor of this was in the supermarket shopping. [chuckles] [laughter] And a lady walked up to him and slapped him. [laughter] 'You horrible man, how could you do that to Sandra?' He said, 'Whoa, whoa! Wait! Whoa, whoa, whoa! It's a play!' [laughter] 'I am not that guy.' She said, 'Yes, you ought to be ashamed of yourself!' [laughter] So, some people, they believe it so much, M: that it's like, the on screen is a reality. M: And, actually, we are living, M: while we're living in the strong sense of personal identity, the world you see through the mind, which is a very subjective interpretation of the world. Like I sometimes say, There is one Earth, but there are billions of worlds. Because the world we experience, we're not just experiencing the pure earth as it is, but our subjective, psychological, emotional projection, that interpretation, and suffering our own idea of it. You see, this is very important! It's like when the World Cup was going on, you have so many commentators about each game from all different countries. And if you listen to every country's commentaries, you'll be listening to a different match. Which one is telling the true commentary of this match? No one. We all have investments. So you share your investment, whether it's painful or beautiful. Mind is like that. So, you know, what you are experiencing, it's real for you. Your pain is not real for someone else. So, like this, I just have to remind like that. M: Now you say, 'I want to look with you', M: use your experiencing to show you how to come out of that. It's our association with it that keeps it appearing to be alive, because it has some subscription. It's living on subscription. Q: I'd love to drop it completely, the ego, and just stay in the consciousness. M: Well, sometimes it's not so easy to drop it. If you see it as an object, you can drop it. I can take this thing here. I drop it. Can you throw your ego like that? You see. So, you have to, like faith, faith is like a spiritual muscle you have to build, you have to exercise, and it gets stronger and stronger M: until at a certain point when you say, 'No'. It's, 'No'. It's gone! But if you have doubt in it, your faith is not strong enough to actually actualise the power of your faith. Doubt is like this, also. We have lived a lot with doubt. And so, when somebody says, 'Drop something', you say, 'Yeah, okay, I'll try'. It feels like your mind is not strong enough to drop it. I say, you have the attitude and also have the level of suffering, to feel it's an emergency enough, to at least make the effort. Then Grace is also with you because the grace of God is in everything! It never overlooks you. So, with you, your suffering is producing more freedom enzymes in you. It's like, if I say, learn to keep dropping it; you throw the monkey, it comes back on your back. You throw him like this. It sits on your back. [laughter] It's here. [gestures throwing] Throw him! It's on your back. [laughter] You take him to the sea in a boat, out there you throw him, 'God, thank you!' It's on the back. [laughter] So, you say, 'Well, it doesn't work'. I say, no, actually, your attitude, trust in your attitude. And also that I'm sharing with you, you have this power to say, 'Okay'. What does it mean? You're not throwing a monkey. Just saying, 'Be detached from the monkey'. It's more important than throwing him. Because he grows with conflict. The monkey mind grows with conflict. The more you resist, the stronger he gets. So, I say, detachment. Aah, detachment is so powerful! Okay, let him stay there. But don't log into its energy. You try, and see. And you see that, 'Whoa, wait a second. If I don't feed it, because fighting is feeding it.' But being detached from it, you realise, 'Whoa! Let him run, it's okay. When I'm detached, I'm more with myself. When I fight him, I'm more with him.' Q: I try not to fight. But even when I'm detaching, and sinking deeper and deeper into emptiness, there is resistance coming up. M: It's coming up to come out. It's coming up to come out. If you have a little earthquake in the bottom of the ocean, a lot of bubbles start to come up. They don't go down. They come up. When they touch the surface, they pop and disappear. Have this attitude. If something is coming up, Grace has triggered it. It's coming up. Take this as ... Don't identify, 'Oh, why is this thing happening to me?' That's feeding that thing. Q: But to drop the ego, not to feel the tension and the frustration and the pain, does it, does it mean that I'm still really invested in my ego? M: It's not that you're necessarily investing. But like a reflex plays, you find this thing is still playing like that. That's why I say detachment is so powerful. You detach and then you stay with yourself, and you bear that momentary-ness of the pain. But it cannot grow! Detachment means it cannot grow. Fight means it gets muscle, and it will fight with you. Q: I don't feel that I'm fighting. Q: I just feel that I'm trying for so long. M: Yes. Q: And still there is something that is not ... M: That is supporting it, 'I'm trying and it's not going.' He loves to hear that, 'Ha, ha, ha!' [laughter] 'He's trying, and it's not going. Not going.' [laughter] M: I say no, it doesn't matter. You stay. The power is in you. It's okay, 'I see what detachment means'. Detachment doesn't mean, 'I'm detaching myself from that'. Detachment means, 'I stay in the place of awareness'. You see. And gradually, you know, without the fight, it begins to thin away in its impact. It works! It works. Q: That's the only thing that matters to me, to find God, finally. Because I think it's so exhausting, you know. M: Yes, yes. It's your time. M: I have you here with me about something. You'll see what I mean by that. Q: I see. I believe in it. I see it's possible. M: Yes. Q: As I see people going through it, but I haven't experienced it yet. M: What have you not experienced yet? Q: The dropping of the ego and just having that ... M: Forget about experiencing the dropping of the ego. Experience the resting in your own Self. You see, if you're waiting to watch the ego dropping, you know, he'll keep showing like, 'Ha, ha'. [laughter] You are looking for an effect. Q: What I meant was more like peace. Like not to feel, struggle, pain, tension. M: Let the pain come out. Be willing that it is coming out. Don't put it like, 'I should not feel this'. Just let it come out and say, 'Okay, I've been given a reassurance'. Just don't give too much importance to that. It's feeding on your feeling of, 'When it's going to happen?' And, 'Why does it keep coming?' It's feeding it somehow. But just continue to disengage with it. Disengage. The rest of the day, even from now, until our next satsang, Inshallah, you just sit with this. Okay? Then, maybe, you can share the comments, give me a minute report on what happened. Yeah, if it comes, even if it gets loud! Suppose, you know, you really cheesed the mind off. Say like, start to pull your hair. Kick it, kick it, kicking at it! Suppose he takes this form, you say, 'Okay, kick all you like, but I'm not feeding you'. Just stay here. Stay. Stay empty and neutral. And know that universal consciousness supports you. M: And Grace is with you. Q: That's the way. M: Ah? Q: That is the way. M: Yes, yes. It is the Way, the Truth, and the Life! [applause] M: Okay, so ... Q: Thank you. M: Yes, I'm very happy to hear from you a bit later on. Okay? Copyright 2026 Mooji Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved. No part of this recording may be reproduced without Mooji Media Ltd.'s express consent.