Is It Wrong to Still Want Pleasures After Awakening? — Rupert Spira

I have a question which I have a little bit difficulty to really formulate. It's about happiness. And I was of course searching happiness outside in travels, meeting people. And I realize at least intellectually that this is not the right way to go and I think I often have this feeling yes, happiness it's inside me. It's being who which is a source of happiness. And also identity. And and then I started to reason myself in some kind of corner because I still do those things which are pleasurable. I still travel. I meet friends. I go for a good meal and such a things and and then something kind of started telling me oh no, I know because you are not established in being. So this is why you search still those pleasurable things. And then I thought but doesn't mean that if I'm getting established in being, I will never travel. I will sit in the dark room and Yes. don't meet anybody. So it's kind of I don't know if what the question is but it's it's around this Yes. You're quite right. Just you know, it's if one can be established in one's being and one can know that um the source of happiness is your own being and you can still enjoy friendship, enjoy traveling, going out for a nice meal with friends and and and going for walks or going to the cinema or whatever but it's just that you no longer engage in those activities for the purpose of making you happy. You're perfectly happy. You know where your happiness lies. It lies in your being. But you you you're still engaged in life and you still share your happiness with your friends and your family and that might mean going for dinner with them or going for a walk with them or so you still you still um you can still be engaged in life, very fully engaged in life, still participate in all those activities but no longer for the purpose of finding happiness. When you say participate in those activities, this I fully understand but my question was more about searching for them, yeah? So enjoying like being here, enjoying meeting wonderful people, having meals with them. Of course it's kind of I understand that this is absolutely wonderful thing to do but this kind of searching like we just bought a trip for the summer which is just entirely for having fun and [clears throat] And and in order to make that trip, you have to decide are we going to go to Wales or are we going to go to Turkey or are we going to go to Umbria or you have to make a a decision where you want to go and that and then you have to research that and so yes, you you still have to you have to do the research and but um but you're not doing it in order to make you happy. It's because you're happy and you have this beautiful relationship and you want to to share it together and celebrate it and and and meet with friends on the way and and Thank you, yeah. Because I was kind of just thinking oh, you are probably just pretending to go to being since you still search No. >> goodies, niceties outside. No, you're you're you're not sitting at home miserable feeling a sense of lack and feeling I I need to to do this or have this or in order to make me happy. You you you you know where to go to to find peace and and you go there regularly. But then you can be fully engaged in your in your life or whatever that means for you for you if it if it's traveling or walking or or reading or having meals with friends or it's usually a number of things. It's fine to to to enjoy life to to to to to celebrate this understanding in life, to share it, to express it, to celebrate it, to communicate it. Thank you. It was good for me to hear it. Thank you very much. I can [laughter] still I can still travel. Thank you.