The Soul's Timing: Why They Left Exactly When They Were Meant To

potential danger, then for you the whole thing gets exacerbated because of what you're dragging with you or the quintessential baggage that we talk about right? >> Right. So, one of the ways to mitigate that to help is to realize, hopefully with what I shared, that albeit I have love and compassion for what you went through and the grief that could be associated, nonetheless it's precisely what life dialed up, including what they chose from their own soul's experience. Which I know is a bit of a leap for a lot of people. >> Yeah. No, I I'm on that side of the fence of believing. >> Yeah. So, would you also say then that like in some aspect like when when you reference your mom and your dad and [clears throat] like same for me, my mom, my dad, my brother, is there an aspect of it where you feel like the souls left because they achieved what was needed to achieved or what was achieved in relation like is there some What is that? >> Yes. So, whatever their mission is in this particular incarnation got complete. Mhm. And sometimes it can be to the point that a soul gets to the point uh for themselves that it learned the lesson or the mission that it was here to accomplish was satisfied. >> Yeah. We could also say that sometimes for the soul they got to a point, you know, especially when people choose consciously to check out, suicide obviously being very prevalent particularly amongst men unfortunately, but where things became overwhelming to the point that it's sort of like I just I can't handle this right now. Right. But even in that we would argue from the sort of the spiritual conversation of what that soul was here to go through was nonetheless part of that particular incarnation. Yeah, I that that that feels right when I when I think about it that way. That makes a lot of sense to me. >> And and being a smart woman with intellect and now I know a fellow Virgo, so you got a a great brain, you know, even if that doesn't feel right with you, right, which it does, which is great, which would elicit peace and a profound sense of acceptance, you know, the more callous or crass response would be so what if it doesn't sit right with you? It's still the way it is. You know, so that you can use either way, either you lean into trust and faith that life knows what it's doing and every soul has its own purpose or you can just use logic and go, okay, well, that's great that you could resist the fact that mom, dad, brother died, but it doesn't change the fact that they died. Right. So, now you've got death with resistance which creates suffering or you have death with suff- profound acceptance which creates peace. Yeah. Right? And this is the the unique nature of a human being is that when I got to that profound sort of awakening moment for me 26, 7 years ago, I got to those three words of I don't know, right? My mind was so preoccupied and almost obsessed with this relationship that had ended and trying to figure out where is she? Is she dating someone else? Am I going to see her again? And it was maniacal repetition of these questions where I kept me up at night. And and then when I got to this point of realizing that the very nature of life is uncertainty. Like the answer to all the questions was the same. I don't know. I don't know where she is. I don't know if I'll see her again. I don't know if she And it was just emphatically true. Right. >> And so when you land on truth, to me there's just such a feeling of liberation because I was no longer ruminating trying to figure it out, which is a survival mechanism of the brain. >> I feel that. Yeah, and right? And I could see you sort of falling into that bucket quite firmly. I think a lot of Virgos might fall into that bucket before they have their awakenings. >> Yes, absolutely. Especially being a parent, right? Because it ups the ante cuz now not only you trying to preserve yourself as part of the mechanism of being a mammal with the primordial imperative of survival, but now you've got other beings to make sure they survive. So, the whole thing gets heightened. So, I have compassion, but it doesn't change the fact that we don't know what the hell's going to happen. >> Yeah. And once you really get that and see as I said sort of the the paradox of being human, which is, okay, we live in a dimension where we're clueless, but by virtue of the way the brains brains designed we're always trying to figure out what's going to happen. >> And then people wonder why they're exhausted. It's like, you know, so it doesn't matter if you're trying to figure it out, you still don't know. Yeah, I know, but I'm going to try and work it out. Yeah, but you don't know. No, I know. Yeah, my husband often likes to say to me, [laughter] just let the cards fall how they're going to fall. Yes. Take a minute. Yeah, which is great advice, but and not to in any way diminish, you know, the intention of him sharing that cuz he loves you and you're his spouse and partner, but your design is not to just let the cards fall where they may. >> Right. And so that's also where the compassion comes in, right? The awareness of your own survival instincts which have been heightened because of what you've been through exacerbated by the story of loss. You know, if you were to at least see that from this conversation, you didn't lose anyone. It's not like you're in the shopping mall and you couldn't find your brother. Yeah. >> Right? That's a that would be a more accurate use of the word loss. Right. >> it from the human experience of grief and sadness and they're not around anymore. Yes, but it's it's when you live in the the loss, then you're saying something's missing now. Mhm. And then you're always going to be compromised, right? Versus no, there was an experience that I had with a beautiful human where I found companionship, love through a sibling, playfulness, whatever, even competition, fights, whatever garnered your experience of life, you could equally go, wow, I found the greatest mom and the greatest dad. >> Yeah. For me that's what I kind of I I said like 17 years of being with a man who adored me and loved me and told me every day, did I have it so bad relative to a friend who's got a dad for 75 years who's never told him that he loves him? You know, so >> I feel that >> Yeah. deep in my soul when I think about, you know, the relations and and the importance >> [clears throat] >> um and what was garnered in them. There's definitely way more beautiful aspects of peace and love >> Yeah. >> of what those were versus what they were and so I I I feel that. Good. So, then the only thing to look at which would be the uglier side, but you're in the mastermind, is your ego's only using those stories of loss as evidence for its own existence. Yeah, this ego is really something. >> It's very slippery little bugger, yeah. >> little >> [laughter] >> slippery little sucker. Yeah. So, one of the things you say that plays into it nicely is the most dangerous thing that you live in is the prison you live in your mind and your thoughts. Yeah. So, why does the mind want to scare us? It feels very counteractive to what the universe actually wants for us, which is >> Yeah. to break free of that for, you know, to remain in a state of joy and abundance and >> [clears throat] >> realizing that when you get out of your ego that things are ultimately happening for your highest good. So, why do we battle like that? It doesn't feel It feels very parallel. It does, but if you understand the whole nature of the universe, everything is experienced through contrast, right? So, unity, singularity doesn't have a an experience of itself, right? So, when people say, we're all one and kumbaya and it's all lovey-dovey, you know, it's like, yeah, that's that's great, but I like to sort of tweak words to maybe sort of reveal a deeper truth, which is, yes, we're all one, but would we we wouldn't know that if it weren't for the we. Right. Right? So, it's like, hey, what what? Like So, yes, we're all one, but we wouldn't know that if it weren't for the we, meaning it's through diversity in the illusion of separation that we get to have an experience to come back to the experience then of oneness. Cuz oneness doesn't have an experience cuz compared to what? Right. So, for me at least, again, this is just my take. I'm not saying this is emphatically the truth, but in my own investigations is that the experience of suffering, constraint limitation is the gift to then have the euphoria of liberation and freedom. And and it hit me in a funny way. I remember my dad who worked on the boats. There's a picture of me as a little kid black and white being ushered by my mom who was still alive, so I was probably only three or four and I had my cute little onesie and I'm I'm kind of like little my my little puppet arms, you know, going towards somebody off off frame, >> Uh-huh. which was clearly my dad cuz I could see that setting was the harbor and he would go away for two, three days at a time working nights sometimes. And so his his little son sees daddy and mom's like, you know, go and go see your daddy. And just looking at that photo kind of for me embodied that whole point of contrast, which is one of the most important parts of love is missing somebody. >> Yeah. Right? That's an aspect of love, right? It's almost like even the degree to which you adore your husband and vice versa, you know, with all due respect at some point you're like, okay, I could use some freaking time by myself, right? [laughter] It's like, I love you and could you just go away and leave me alone for a minute, right? So, the that to me is sort of the human expression of consciousness that wants to forget itself for a minute. Right. So, in the realm of all frequencies on the planet then you've got dark and good and light and bad and, you know, all of these different frequencies exist. And so arriving, the way I look at it is planet Earth, this dimension is the perfect container for souls that are still entangled with some constraint, which is the suffering or the the bad mindset. >> Right. So, you come here because you're going to attract all the circumstances you need for that to get triggered, which is the opportunity to transcend it and liberate yourself. So, that to me is as I read to you in the module or two yesterday, right? What What's the purpose of life? And I read that caption of like for me cutting it short for the the listener, the whole purpose of life is to liberate the soul you are. That's it. End of story. Yeah, and it's it's a journey walking through that that journey of life to get through those liberations. It can be harrowing. It is because unfortunately the more insidious the mind gets, the more cunning it also becomes at discovering ways to avoid that journey. >> Right. So, there's a myriad of forms of escape now, right?