Anunnaki, Hybrid Humans and Hidden History — Michael Tellinger on Gnostic Warrior

we are at the famous site of the giant footprint or the footprint of God here near um palui in South Africa very close to the swasiland border now this is one of the greatest examples of an ancient footprint a giant footprint about 4 ft high in rough Granite it's between 200 million and 3 billion years old that's what geologists will tell you I'm going to just take you if you follow me up to the top where it's imprinted against the side of the rock which means it's been around for so long that the tectonic plates and the movements have actually pushed it up at the the Apex of this little outcrop it's quite spectacular so just walk with me and I'll show you I don't know of any other example of a of a footprint in rock that is as amazing as this and this should be drawing 20 million tourists to South Africa every year and nobody knows about it it's unbelievable there we have it let's uh get [Music] closer oh [Music] wow this is just beautiful look at this there's the you know when you there the big there's the big toe and the other four toes down to the small toe down to the heel what's mess about this is anybody anybody that does a study of this will notice this piece sticking out here it's like when you put your foot in mud and you pull it out your toes will lift up a little mud where your toes were and it's exactly what seems to have happen welcome to nstic Warrior radio broadcasting from Gnostic warrior.com in San Diego California to around the world today on the other line we have Michael tellinger an author from South Africa he's done several Works recently uh slave species to God uh his website Michael teller. comom and then slaves. the subject we're going to talk about today is going to deal with the slave species of God he's you probably seen his videos on YouTube there's several out there he's a great speaker he's probably one of the the hardest working that I've seen out there actually in the last few years and he's been at this for about seven 7 years almost close to a decade and he he travels and he has several different subjects that he he talks about Giants and then also recently uh more recently banking which we'll probably uh talk about today because it relates to the subject as well and that's something that I'm familiar with with my websites so can you tell us a little bit about yourself Michael thanks very very much Mo um yes um I um I was actually born in in Europe I was born in the Czech Republic and um um into a musical family my mother was an opera singer and then after the Russian invasion in 1968 my parents fled the country and settled in South Africa um mainly because of the gold mining here my father was a minor he was a um senior mine manager in one of the mines and in the Czech Republic or Czechoslovakia and he wanted to come to South Africa because of the mining um so that's how I ended up here but um um I grew up in in uh on the Mine Fields in South Africa the Gold Mine Fields and um not really realizing how that would affect and influence my perception and thinking about the the world around us because um what I didn't know growing up on the Mine Fields and the gold mines um was that the circumstances that prevailed during the 60s and 70s and sort of into the mid 80s on the gold mines in South Africa um actually probably from the 50s already uh were probably very similar to in in many ways to the situation that must have prevailed in the ancient gold mines of the vanished civilizations of southern Africa but I'll come back to that later as that's ironic cuz that's the work you're doing now you know as crazy as it may sound to some people that it's incredible the similarities that you start finding um so um I you know I left school uh I was very always involved in music and arts and culture and so forth U always outside the box you know uh but enjoyed school I was never a never a laner or an outsider very much a game player I played Sports I participated and all the things and school came easy to me I I passed with with great ease I didn't have to do any work I'd always pass exams with you know good marks and distinctions and so it it I was fortunate in that sense um and then I left school I I went to University and I I started studying chemical engineering um which I didn't really enjoy not because of the subject matter because of the lecturers the lecturers were just they just sucked at this University that I was at and uh and I switched from uh chemical engineering to pharmaceutics um from ptor to Johannesburg and that was an interesting shift um that taught me about pharmaceutics um how drugs are manufactured um you know pretty much do the same subjects at Medical School that uh everyone that studies medicine and Dentistry does you know you all do the same subject for the first three years and then it starts to um specialize into into more specialist um subjects of the the various um platforms or or or choices so um I realized at that stage that something was quite not right with um the story that we've been told about Humanity our Origins the genetic code how it all fits together and it was also at that time at at at the age of 18 that I read U Eric fyakin Chariots of the Gods and um that was really the trigger point for me I guess at the age of 18 well that was when you started getting interested in in truth and stuff like that looking behind the curtain yeah so it was about 1978 um 7879 and uh and and and that that was you know once you go through that door there's no stopping no turning back as you know I agree yes and uh and it's a beautiful Journey um with stops and starts sometimes you get distracted I got involved in the music and and music industry and stage and TV and and recording albums and so forth and and um eventually I ended up living in in Los Angeles for a year um trying to get into the music business there um and did very well until they found out that my partner and I were two white South African boys at which stage all the record companies that had shown interest in us had dropped us like hot potatoes wow because it was just that's not too marketable huh yeah no that was that was just an interesting Twist of Fai because well while I was in in La trying to get signed and getting all the attention um and then suddenly being dropped uh some of my black South African musician friends uh were n La getting wi and DED by the big record labels because they were black and uh and because we were white we were dropped and there was an interesting um reversal of Fortune although I obviously come from a background of I guess um uh radical um alternative thinking and always going against the the thread um so I was always up against the aparte regime um throughout my childhood and um always an activist for for human rights and so forth so it's been with me for years and years and years yeah and that's um you know a lot of people when they they hear the word you know slave they immediately think you know that the black the the Africans and so forth and it's not that I I know in in researching it myself myself in the subject you know and then my own DNA and and going back over the last 3 to 5,000 years is we've all been subjects to to slavery and and these atrocities and so forth all all the races across the world have been enslaved and um and it's just it's a lot of people they hear that word and they just they think that when they're not educated on it do you agree Michael sometimes well not only that I don't only agree with you but I must make a very strong statement here and and I really wish and I hope that people take this and go and think about this and research this and this is what I will tell you and your listeners we are more enslaved now than at any other time in human history now that might not make sense to people that are new to the subject matter but once you get a hold of my new book The Ubuntu contributionism book that I've just completed I'm just doing the third or fourth edit now um it should be out hopefully by the end of April or in during May um we we are more enslaved now than ever before because the slavery is so carefully crafted and maliciously manipulated around us that we don't realize it and it's that Awakening that that really gets a lot of people off their backside and start becoming activists for True liberation of humanity the true liberation of our Consciousness and true liberation of living breathing human beings from the Draconian enslavement of every government on this planet that enslave their people in ways that they cannot even begin to imagine and the most important tool of enslavement which we're going to come back to later I guess or in another program is money money is the primary tool of enslavement on our planet today and I know that I'm I might be jumping around because we supposed to be talking about origins of humankind and ancient civilizations but unfortunately and very excitingly as well this is how beautiful the storyline is it takes us from the origins of humankind genetic manipulation slaves in gold mines in southern Africa 300,000 years ago the evolution of our DNA without us being aware of it um the separation and segregation of different race groups however they came about Still Remains a huge mystery the the grand population of this planet um and the continued deepening enslavement plan of action that continues to enslave Humanity from the very first step that we and breath we took as a species on this planet until today it is truly an Immaculate de ception yeah and Michael in in my own research and of course the the work that you've done you know we're we're going to you know a lot of the the questions that I have are going to relate to that and you're going to touch on it you know when I look back at at history over the last 5,000 years it doesn't matter you know right now it just seems more like a a centralized World type government where they've aligned their forces and each kingdom you know for thousands and thousands of years have always enslaved their people whether that be a kingdom in Africa whether that be a kingdom in Europe it's they've always done that unless you were an aristocrat correct yeah to to to some extent yes uh I think that there are definitely examples of indigenous people and Native populations that have operated under slightly different situations and different structures and uh and if if you look at that time and and I know it's going where you're going I wanted to say that there was it was either be a slave or enslave and it seems like around 3,000 years ago and a lot of the work that you relate relates to what you're doing that a group of Kingdoms had aligned themselves and just took over the world yeah it's it's definitely it it probably started as far back as about 6,000 years ago about 4,000 BC and it could be even further back in time I actually I I guess um I suspect should I say that it goes back to the the end of the flood just after the flood the sort of great biblical flood that that we talk about some 12,000 years ago and again I speak very broadly with in in those time frames because we we're not 100% sure are we but there are some indicators that that tell us that there was a a great flood many uh most Scholars and researchers seem to agree on this great biblical flood um that ended um about 12,000 years ago I believe that it was after that event that completely and utterly annihilated this planet and um and that is the beautiful evidence that I also present here from South Africa but that evidence can also be seen in other parts of the world uh not just here in the South and it it seems back then after then you know we have the the Bible that came out and it seems like it it documents that with the Old Testament and Genesis that we were at one time all separate races as far as whether we were you know a race from planet Earth or they were alien races but whatever happened at this time we were separate races then somehow we've all merged correct um yeah wow you that's a that's an interesting question um or a or a topic to discuss the the issue of races is is a fascinating one because there is no consensus on where the race groups on planet Earth come from you know it's just here we are at least five distinctly different race groups where the hell did these people come from so there's five races basically that walk the planet Earth right now yeah and they probably more you know um Sub sub rers and so forth but but it seems like um the the race group thing phenomenon is a really fascinating um thing to to contemplate on planet Earth because uh you you know just if if you had to look at for example take China you know and and here you got you know a billion people or 1.4 billion people or whatever it is supposed to be today um here they are you know breeding and and and bringing forth Offspring and and little Chinese babies at which point do those babies start to look like African people or blonde blue-eyed Norwegian people you know it's not going to happen unless they're A different race yeah unless there's an injection of that DNA at some point in time in studying the you know the the Chinese are they uh related to --- mitive worker and um and en key until recently was just seen to be a Sumerian figure until I went and had a a full day meeting with Baba CR mutwa South African wise man and um and great um Elder of of great knowledge and Consciousness he's the highest level of Shaman that you can find he's a Soni Shaman and K muta has become a global icon for exposing hidden indigenous knowledge and many people are actually um were very angry with him when he wrote his his um probably most important book indaba my children in which he spools a lot of the beans that have been held Sacred by the African Shaman but what K mutwa told me is that en ke is also known as the created God in ancient African tradition and he's known as en Kai en ke en Kai uh the Creator God of the human race and uh you start seeing the connections and one of the if we can get back to the symbols the one of the most recognized instantly recognized symbols as well is is the um is the cross in a circle uh the the Samaran cross in a circle sometimes it has wings like the wing disc or sometimes it's just the cross in in a circle and that symbol you'll find all over the world and it's FAS fasinating when you start looking at why did people carve these crosses in circles until I started looking at this and and and my whole um sort of Journey of Discovery here in southern Africa with discovering these ancient vanished civilizations here of millions and millions of stone structures uh that lie scattered throughout southern Africa um when I started realizing that it was all connected to sound and sound frequency and it all started to make sense because now we start tapping into what all ancient cultures and and religions talk about where the the creation of the universe and all things in it comes from a source of sound the sound of God or the word of God or the OM or the Egyptians sang the universe into creation or the the Aboriginal people talk about the supernatural beings that Rose from from out of the earth and created the form of the Earth with three SEC songs so it's all linked to sound that manifests physical form and matter and shape and uh it's when you start looking at what is at the center of a sound um frequency or a source of a sound point and and to my great surprise or I shouldn't say surprise to my uh great Amusement I guess um I found that when you when at the center of a of this what I call a pop there seems to be this beautiful symbol shape that the sound makes uh of a cross Inner Circle um following sacred geometric principles and all is energy yeah it's it's it's absolutely fantastic so when you start seeing the crosses the you know the the the Gnostic cross the uh the the Christian cross uh the all the different crosses from throughout human history the kns Templar cross um Etc they all have a specific reason why they drew them like that and if you start looking at them in my presentation I actually show you how just even the form of those the cross in the middle that comes out of a little circle in the middle is just a representation of the sound frequencies that manifest form and shape and matter and that's why music is is so important and you've seen it a part of religion uh ever since the very beginning with the with the HMS and the chants and the so forth it changes us and that's what everybody needs to realize out there that that music and what we listen to and what we we in intake into our into our minds is so important and what we surround ourselves with from you know if you're listening to hardcore heavy metal music all the time that's real hateful and and angry guess what's going to happen with you it's going to change you it's going to change your very structure and your DNA into that hateful type of of thing and they know that the powers it be understand this you know you you find that in rap music as well you know and it gets inserted into our brains and and it changes us and and music is one of the most powerful the human voice the most powerful enchantment magical enchantments in the world and that's you know a thing that's in related to your subject I I was thinking about the most powerful and highest paid people right now are this is the two basically the two E I call it either entertain or enslave yeah and you look at that that that could be banking that could be pharmaceutical as far as the enslave enslavement goes um anything related to that or or the big corporations and then you look at entertain you find that in sports you find that in music these guys are the highest paid because they could enchant the largest audiences yeah and usually usually these people aren't the the best of Role Models as far as spirituality goals goes or or truth or love it's usually the complete opposite and it's it's materialism do you agree now that that's very interesting what you said then and it's very important for people to understand that and start wrapping their heads around that you know everything is resonance and frequency um so so it that's that's the source of all things and and as as we mentioned earlier it's it's we we are told this by all ancient cultures and the the the source creation point of all religions and all belief systems all comes from this same principle sound sound resonance some creative force that created the whole universe and everything in it with with the original you know om or whatever you want to call it um that's that's really important to understand how that affects as you mentioned the words we speak and the words we hear uh which includes the music and the frequencies because that is everything we we put out um even our thoughts obviously but a spoken word is even more powerful because it carries the the actual resonance with it not just the frequency um of of of the thought but the actual resonant effect as well um and uh those those like you know some of the great prophets told us you can move mountains with those I agree and that's why a lot of the the past prophets and Truth tellers were were silenced and it's interesting to me that you know now that we're able to you know find this knowledge and you know you you talk about how we're of course in one of the most enslaved times in history which which I agree and then also there's also Liberation and freedom for those people that seek it within this kind of prison-like system that's what I'm kind of finding it's like you know to me I I look at as far as the enslavement goes it's it's more of a monetary type of thing you know with the banking now where before it was pretty much with a sword and you know a religion take this religion or take the sword you know kind of thing and that was propagated and now they they've mastered it to a point of materialism and money where there's no really no master a whip a sword or a cross to get burned on now but there's a a master called money that if you live in you know a society here like in you know California or America anywhere and then most European countries and I'm sure it's quite similar in South Africa you don't have money you're on the street so money is a type of energy as well that the powers it be also understand and it could be used for either good or bad so once you understand that money is almost a type of Freedom so if the more money you make it could either enslave you with your vices and your passions if you use your money for that or you could use the money to uh liberate you in in in this enslavement type of system and I my understanding it's it's always kind of been like that or it was like that in Egypt you could buy your way out of slavery I don't know if you have any any research on that but can you talk a little bit more about um you know South Africa the gold mining and the slavery that that has happened for the the past thousands of years before the banking we get into the banking yeah well it's really it's really all connected as I said right at the start you know once you start to understand what went down here 300,000 years ago with the creation and the cloning of the the Primitive slave species or as the Samarian tablets call it the Lulu amelu um that gives us the a very clear indication of of How It's evolved and what happened and and how we've been enslaved and continue to be enslaved but in essence uh what we've got here and what I've been sharing with the world for the last seven years well actually it's only really the past five years uh since I've discovered the physical evidence since um um sort of mid 2007 um that I discovered the physical evidence of of the ancient gold mining Empire here um but the the the information and the knowledge of this Golden Empire goes back 500 years it's not something new but it's just been ignored it's been ignored and misunderstood for 500 years and I guess not just misunderstood and ignored but also consciously suppressed and kept out of sight and out of Mind by those who knew like the royal bloodlines and those that actually have all the information um those that that knew what was going down here for you know hundreds of thousands of years they've kept this very neat and tidy and out of sight and out of mind and that's why in many ways I believe that southern Africa has has always been kept very stable there's never been really too much major you know um War kind of activity here that's all North Africa and and uh and the Horn of Africa and up there m you know thousands and thousands of miles away from us we don't even know that it exists um but they've had to keep this part of the world away from the the sort of glaring eyes of the rest of the world because it's the Golden Goose that keeps laying the golden eggs it's interesting because everybody thinks that Egypt is that was that just it it came later Egypt they pretty much mined South Africa or South Africa was always the place and they just the kind of the the Ordo you know look over here but it's really over there oh absolutely the remember that um Egypt uh obviously the whole Egyptian story that we've being sold today is just a deception I mean I I came back from Egypt in December completely disillusioned I couldn't believe what I had encountered my first trip to Egypt and it was not what I expected I realized that it's like I I call it a Disneyland of deception um you know these huge monuments and these these giant temples and all that but that that's pretty much all you've got you know where all the ancient cities where where did the people live where the civilizations where that built all the stuff where the people that built the pyramids that they just nowhere to be found and uh you realize that we're dealing with with huge amounts of information that lies buried below the soil um I traveled extensively all the way from you know Kira and Alexandria all the way down to Awan and uh and saw you know many many sites and what became very clear to me is that there's an absolute cover up going on to prevent the older and more ancient um civilizations that lie down below the sand the next layer down from being excavated and um and that's really fantastic because we don't you know unless you unless you know what you're looking at if you're just a tourist and you go to Egypt you're so overwhelmed by the by the spectacle and the size and the temples and the stories that they tell you and it's all just all part of this you know story line and the the the fairy tales that have now grown into huge lies and deception is it so the whole story of Egypt I mean of course it's not all made up but a lot of it is is that what you're saying or there was no pharaohs or no no no I'm just saying that that that the real history of Egypt lies buried below the soil we're not seeing it gotcha and the and the the main example of that there two main reasons I say that is firstly um that the Assyrian Temple at abidos is a great example you know where you got those huge probably I'd say 3 4 500 ton blocks and pillars that make up the the the underground it's it's just partially excavated we don't know how how much larger it is it lies below the existing Temple it's filled with water clearly you can see that there's a lot more to dig out and next at but they've stopped they've closed it off there's bar wire all around it and that's where the flower of life is not carved but but printed with some sort of a Laser Technology several flowers of Life on one of the pillars uh and that has been closed off no one goes there um and and and strangely enough it's now becoming one of the most you know sought after attractions in Egypt because people realize that that's where the real information lies buried beneath the soil that they don't want to excavate um so it's that that's something they find and and until they decide if they want to release it to the public or never release it it's that kind of thing it's like oops okay close it off to the public we got to do our own kind of secret government type of gotcha yeah exactly or like one of the other temples I forget which one it is now cuz I visited so many uh where the where the the helicopter and the tanks or those all those carvings have being exposed well when apparently what happened is it was covered by some pla --- d and eat it up or that those drugs or those pharmaceutical stuff then you're you're that Free Will is you're a victim your sacrifice yes yes now it gets it gets interesting here and I think this is where it gets complicated so what these beings call them the anunaki or possibly other beings as well but I think the anunaki are probably the primary instigator of this on this planet also the primary instigators of what went down in Atlantis That Was Then corrupted by other beings and invaded by other beings but I think that um what happened here is that they created these beings the Lulu am primitive worker and they what most of them didn't know the anunaki didn't know is that enki encoded them the beings with um with a more advanced DNA CU he realized that he could not he was not allowed to create according to the prime director a species that would not grow in Consciousness I mean that would be like the worst evil if you can use that word um deed uh against all of creation right and in fact I've got some interesting feedback from various people that have that have given me this information this is why I've reached some of these conclusions that claimed that the anunaki have committed a great sin against all of creation and for that they've being cast out of the book of life and this is all connected to their activity on Earth their obsession with gold but not the shiny gold the white powder of gold the monoatomic gold which is a very highly energetic substance that that has very important attributes and um and was used and continues to be used by them very strategically this stuff gets really weird the more the deeper you get into it the weirder it gets and I know we just jump straight we just jump straight into the deep end here you know yeah no it's it's interesting and I know a lot of the listeners and and people that are interested in in what you have to say Michael or this is the what they want to hear you know and we need to you know and I I'm sorry I interject sometimes because I feel that some of the questions I might have and touch on even though I might interrupt your your thought or or questions people might have like such as the an anunaki what planet did they allegedly come from yeah well you know sing claims that come from neiru whether that's true or not I I I remain open on that um I will definitely side with sichen because I do believe that he was a a great scholar he devoted his life to this subject matter there are others that that that have studied the text as well that seem to agree with him uh although he's got hundreds if not thousands of detractors I have no time for those people I must tell you because from my own research and some of the people that I've spoken to who I have the highest regard for that have worked with suchin uh have very very honorable things to say about the man but I just want to come back to the to the to the anunaki and the gold and what they did here because it is really interesting so you can influence a being by pretending to lead them uh and then take and all allowing them to to form what they believe is Free Will so they give you things like democracy you see you've got freedom you've got Choice you've got democracy you can choose a leader but we'll we'll stage the leaders we'll you know we'll we'll put them there for you to choose so you don't you're not really you don't really have free will will'll set the stage so you really make choices that have been predetermined for you and um but under the belief that you've got Free Will and and and um you can you know do what you want but the moment that the creature or the being shows signs of higher Consciousness and starts to contemplate its own being and its own Evolution into the family of beings of higher Consciousness that make up the universe and the the Multiverse and the and starts to comprehend the unity Consciousness principle and the source field of unity Consciousness the fact that we all actually resonate from the same source and starts to recognize and realize these Advanced bits of knowledge and information that you've lost them at that moment you may no longer exercise your Draconian or your potentially Draconian laws and rules against that being because they've chosen a different path does it make and they allow it makes perfect sense because I believe that the powers of be allow that in the society to to an extent except the monetary the taxes you know that that's in the Bible you got to give to Caesar what is Caesar's yeah so I think what's happening now uh what's happening now is that we are waking up so quickly the Enlightenment and the rise of Consciousness is is going exponentially around the world and millions and millions of people are having these kind of discussions and millions of people are making discoveries and having connecting to the akashik records and the morphogenic field and downloading information that they know is true and they know is real because they are starting to understand how it all works and fits together so it is no longer possible to lie to the people you can only lie to the people that are uninformed and ignorant so this is what the whole thing of Enlightenment and Awakening is all about is the moment that Humanity will reach our true Liberation and freedom from the Draconian oppression of those who use money as a tool of enslavement and the draconian rules that they've implemented over 6,000 years around money those days are now over we are here in these times and this is why the Mayans spoke about it and the African cultures talk about it and the Aboriginal people talk about it the Native American people talk about it um you know that in 1986 uh some of the the hopy uh elders and some of the other Native American people came Chiefs came to South Africa they met with k mutwa and a few Shaman and elders elders of Africa because they believe in their Native American cultures that the rise of the new world in the new age will come from South Africa I mean how bizarre is that it's interesting because I've never heard that until you stated that I just heard that yesterday and you know I always prepare for my interview of you know right before the the day before and I heard you say that in a video and again right now and that's it's really interesting cuz no one ever thinks to look to South Africa okay well you've got to you know and this is why I bring people back to the end days will be as the first days and As Above So Below this is this is the end of the cycle the Mayans said this is the end of of an age and the beginning of another so if the new age is rising and we're already Rising into the new age then it has to come from the place where Humanity originally came from and that is right here in South Africa not Z Michael what about you know when I when I look at this I want to play devil's advocate here as far as the world goes when I when I look at you know I agree with you people are waking up more than ever you know and people are being led to the light and the truth and it's it's being hard to control them but I also look at the other side of the spectrum that I feel personally that 99% of society is still asleep that still could be lied to and they love the lies and they love the materialism and they love it being abused and a lot of them I've tried to talk to and educ C and some of them are in my own family and my wife uh my wife it's not my wife excuse me my wife's family um my wife is my partner in truth and light as well but as far as her family goes you try to educate them on on different things vaccines and truth and history it's just it goes right over their head and then my family it's just it's a it's just not even it's a waste of breath and then friends we don't have too many friends because they're more interested in the the materialism and in the the Facebook you know BS and instead of educating someone with their Facebook account they want to talk about their meal and how good they look and their hair they got and just change their Facebook page that's who we're dealing with what what's going to happen um do the my thoughts are that I agree that people like yourself and myself are going to help lead Society in the future and that actually the powers that be had wanted it to be like this and that eventually you and you see the material list and you know the people losing their homes it's almost like they're using that money to kind of take out that class you know even though they don't know it they're slowly pulling out the the cork on the boat or they're you know turning up the the heat on the water and the frogs in the pot they're all losing their homes their jobs and you know we're creating jobs and this is going on and I you know looking at it running my website lansafe dorg and seeing behind the scenes and what's really going on it's all Bs and then you see the plans of the future with Agenda 21 here in America where it's pretty much they sliced up the country to where we're only living in zones and the rest of the the country is almost like green zones it's almost like this is all going towards that agenda and they're pulling the plug out on on materialism to an extent yeah look the you know you can only push people so far uh I think that what happened in Cyprus with the banks closing was a test to see how far they can push people with you know closing their accounts and just robbing their accounts and just pure you know just it's just pure theft you know in in in global headlines and they wanted to see what the people would do well they could see that the people do nothing so that was not a good omen but it did make people around the world realize exactly that that the banks have the ability just to close your account and keep all your money and nobody's going to accuse him of theft well they did that here in America with with the bailouts because you know like I had mentioned I I were run my website loans safe.org which pretty much deals with mortgages and we were keeping track of all the bailouts and the alleged attorney general settlements with the banks nothing ever materialized you know that they go on before they go to Congress and get the money that hey we're going to use this money to you know bail out homeowners and so forth and then you you know bernacki comes on and he's being interviewed by the Senate hey we we we gave it to Banks can you tell us who that was no we're not going to tell you uh what about the homeowners uh sorry you know that's basically what it was and and I'm helping these exact same people that seen this happen and they do no one does does nothing and they keep doing it and doing it and doing it and they're Americans are a bunch of wimps for the most part they don't do and I I've seen this go on and on and it's just like well you tell them the truth and you try to even educate them you know these people that are losing their home and that's one of the worst time to try to give them the light and the truth is that time all they want to do is save their home and their material possessions so it's this weird dichotomy of how this system set up but I think you know while this is happening and while they tightening the screws and and the Heat's going up uh in in everybody's life uh they start to realize and and feel that that something is wrong and it's at that moment and at that point that they are more open to to possibly receive a message or a word or a sentence or an image or something from somewhere that will be their trigger point and that could happen so quickly um that you know I don't think we should ever underestimate the power of the the millions of people that are doing what you and I are doing and talking about what you and I are talking about now there are millions and millions of people around the world that are doing the same and the energy flows out that resonant frequency flows out whether the people hear it or not it is affecting them that's that's just the simple reality and the powers that be know this because they're allowing us to do this as well do you agree Michael meaning that if you get that and and you you get what I'm saying and get what Michael's saying and and you you you might be in that dark spot and you get that spark of light from us or truth that helps you that they're okay with that and you could not be controlled by them as much and they're okay with that and and the guy that doesn't get it they're okay with that too course so this is exactly where I see that that split so you can carry on controlling the people that that live in the darkness and will continue controlling them until they see the light right and then you stop controlling them uh you it seems like the secret societies have have allowed the light for us to CU When you go a lot of the stuff that we talk about you know in finding you Michael and getting educated on on what you've done and of course thousands of people every video I see and every talk that you do gets 10 20 30 40 50,000 views and I mean there's probably hundreds of videos of you on YouTube talking about this and and you're not being silenced you're not being taken out you know they you're b --- sness there's no doubt about that we've crossed that Galactic plane we've crossed the Horizon we've moved through the possible you know falling down into the abyss or whatever you want to call it the Consciousness has saved this planet and uh people don't necessarily realize that but I want them to think about this we are moving towards a utopian world there's no doubt about that and there's no place for anyone to have any control it's not possible this is why I'm going to punt my book now because it's critical that people get this information in a in a structured chronological order so that they understand where we've come from what is going on and where we going and we already are at the doorstep of where we going all we need to do is just move through the door and start to inhabit that new utopian planet that we are imagining and visualizing for ourselves we're right on the threshold of it and um is it always darkest before the dawn absolutely that's what it seems to be so don't be fearful lose your fear drop your fear and realize we are on the threshold of the utopian World there is no place for money or the controllers of money or those that create a hierarchial structure or Kings or Lords or any one of these we are all born equal we are all fractals of the infinite Divine Creative Source okay it doesn't matter who you are everything is a fractal of the Divine creation what if someone that's in power doesn't agree with that you see you know presidents that have came in and tried to change the system and had you know try tried to smash the Federal Reserve you know and we're just little guys compared to John Kennedy that was all in the past that was all stuff that happened when there was not enough knowledge information and Consciousness and there was no internet um so today information can spread very quickly and that actually helps and age the spread of Consciousness and information and knowledge that allows people to very rapidly change their mind about something or possibly reach their own trigger point um there is there is no it's not possible and this is why you've got to you've got to get hold of of my book Ubuntu contributionism to understand why it's not possible for anyone to have control like you're suggesting what if those you know that don't want it won't allow it it's not up to them it's up to the people in the end it's always up to the people it always has been and always will be and people will rise and they'll create revolutions and all that I believe this is not a revolution of blood and violence it's a revolution of Consciousness the silent revolution of Shifting away from the direction that we on getting onto a different path completely different path of Consciousness and completely just eroding away dissolving away the Draconian past that is caused so much um you know destruction and so much sorrow and and Desperation throughout so many thousands of years what what about the people that that love this system and that they almost seem like they're on the completely other side of the spectrum and and if we were to try to do this they would kill us you know like in the past not saying I'm saying our own people our own citizens out there that love slavery and they love their materialism well they don't really love it they do it out of fear and necessity they think they love it the moment they realize that they could do what they want all these people that you're mentioning what you're actually doing now Mo you you you're asking one of the 12 most frequently asked questions that I actually answer in my book and uh and it's it's spectacular what you'll see it is it'll put a real smile on your face because it is the same set of questions that everybody asks what is that point to it shows us that we all equally brainwashed and we all believe the same crap yeah the the problem I always play Devil's Advocate because I I've been trying to Enlighten you know people on my Forum you know loans safe.org about Banking and everything they don't they don't even want to have it they don't even want to hear it you know and they're they're losing everything so they're in that fear aspect and that's they just they're losing everything and that's what I see happening across the world or at least here in America and I don't see Enlightenment happening only on on a small small small percentage and I I I there's hope I believe that this is it's it's expanding but I feel almost like those people are the enemy to us of En Enlightenment and truth and and so forth and I know they're under mind control as well but some of them do you think that everybody if they had the chance would would choose what we choose or there's not not a sh of doubt in my mind and again it's you know it's taken me 8 years and 310 pages of a book to compile this to explain why I can say so and why I feel so strongly about saying so I need to get that book yeah it's it's uh it is it is so obvious once you see the light once you understand how the control of money and those that control money has created all these false belief systems and the control systems and the legal system systems and the oppression systems and the segregation and the separation everything that's that's negative and bad for Humanity has been set up uh by those who control um the flow of money and this has been going on for 6,000 years at least and uh moment you get rid of that you realize how everything changes but the only devil Devil's Advocate again there would be that before there was the control of money it seems like and even during it until there there was complete control over the last you know few thousand years they've perfected it now but prior you know to the last couple hundred years it was almost like Anarchy uh to a certain extent you know they had the the trade and so forth and you had of course the the the Vatican and the different uh European powers and the Spanish powers in France and so forth but they were always fighting one another throughout that time and then certain powers came to be and they used money of course and perfected it over time to to the electronic thing but before it was like it was Anarchy and now it's they they create the Anarchy when they want to it's just it it seems like they're hellbent on using this system to control us and um go ahead no no I was just saying um that um it's all the same it's all the same control it's just different tools different methodology of controlling people you know but it's always divide and conquer remember divide and conquer uh and these people that have been doing this um or these beings that have been doing this for so many thousands of years they Masters at it remember that that to them it it is it's it's it's very difficult to explain because it's it just comes naturally to them they they've they know exactly what to do how to how to control other beings that's what they've been doing for probably millions of years throughout the Universe not just on this planet but many many other planets and I look at America it was almost it was set up this way you know I we'll we'll leave here shortly I want to leave this as the last couple minutes here is that we were set up kind of to to be that way to be that mind controlled kind of nation to an extent but also have the knowledge and to be led that to the belief that we're free when we're not yeah um and then we're kind of like America's Police Force as well where where people don't understand what's going on and and of course a lot of people join the military and so forth but it seems like the whole creation of our country is set on unifying the world in the in the New World Order and that they're they're of course we're one of the most powerful countries in the world if not the most powerful along with the the G8 and the G20 that they're all hellbent on creating this this one world government yeah it's it's it's time is over though because it's the people are just waking up so quickly now it's as many people are now calling it the powers that were and they're doing everything they possibly can to this is why it feels so intense because the fear mongering and the fear tactics are just getting so overwhelming that no matter where you look in the media today that's all you see is fear mongering fear tax is being shoved in our face so my message to your listeners is be aware of that don't fo their tricks and their trickery understand what it is view the news to inform yourself about how desperate they are to try and keep us under control see it from a humoristic perspective see it as it as the activities of people that are desperate to clinging onto power clinging to control because they know they're losing their grip and uh unfortunately it's too late the Consciousness is exploding the people are waking up and very very soon and the trigger point is going to be quite frankly and maybe this is a good place to leave this conversation is when the first person releases to the population of the world a free energy device that everyone can make in their home in their garage or they can make it in the local community workshop and uh it runs your house or a couple of houses and everything you've got um free energy perpetual motion um magnet magnetic energy that creates electromagnetic energy something like uh John cus created and I've worked quite a bit with John S in the last few weeks so I know a lot more about it than I ever did before I believe that we have weeks if not months away from somebody giving the world a free energy device put it on the internet then no patents nothing make it free to everybody that is the death Nowell to those that think they run this planet yeah and that's always been a way to to control the people that's a great way to to end it and I want to definitely talk to you in the coming coming months are you coming to America are you gon to be touring here Michael I I hope so um I I hope to come to the states it all depends what happens in in my tour to to Europe and and the UK again later this year but uh I might be in America in August uh in which case I'll try and do a few talks and I I haven't done San Diego so maybe I'll come to San Diego and do something that you can help me get the word out on yeah that would be great and I'm I'm definitely networking with people down here now that uh we could probably have a good convention it's a it's a major population Center and truther Center as well so it might be a great idea and the best website to find you would be uh Michael teller. comom that's it Michael teller. comom and also um for people that want to join the auntu movement please I urge you join the auntu movement it's a global movement of Consciousness it's for everyone it's no I'm going to I want to buy your book Michael you know I haven't read that one I barely started the slave speci a God but I want to that that book where can we find that on your website well it's it's just in it's being edited it's the final stages of editing I hope to get okay I hope to get the ebook out uh within the next few weeks and um and then obviously the printed version as soon as we can print it and get into the shows okay great and uh his your other website is slaves uh.com where you could find information about the slay species of God yeah but I would rather people go to Michael challenger.com you can find everything there and then the the Ubuntu website is Ubuntu party.org Doza um because it's also registered as a political party by the way in South Africa okay great and and like I said I'd like to talk to you in the future and we'll just maybe talk about banking you know and credit and stuff like that because I know you're you're getting into that uh big time there in South Africa and I've been doing that for the past seven years here in America and uh I think that'll be a conversation in itself and I I think that's real important to the listeners out there that you know you don't only educate yourself on the truth the past you know the the slave species and all this stuff that's going on but you you you educate yourself about what's happening now with money and credit and how it's used to control you and maybe we can give you some tips to uh to get out of that control yeah I think it's critical that we talk about that in our next uh our next chat because you know I've now been in the Supreme Court of Johannesburg five on five occasions defending myself against the highest paid lawyers that money can buy some of the biggest banks um including the The Reserve Bank of South Africa which is wow so you know I've learned only when you reach that level do you realize the absolute control and the travesty the deception the lies the trickery how the judges are in the pockets of the bankers it is unbelievable what's going on man yeah it is and like I said that'll be a new podcast and it'll be great we'll probably talk for a couple hours on that and I could keep talking forever to you Michael you're a great host a great speaker um it's been a pleasure talking to you Michael thank you very much M look forward to our next chat yeah definitely take care okay byebye bye [Music] [Music] [Music] for e e