Lost Wisdom of Atlantis and Time Cycles

we went outside the cycle of nature we don't understand how nature repeats itself once and again in the Buddhist tradition when they talk about kala chakra the time wheel The Awakening the enlightenment happens through the cycles you harmonize yourself with the cycles and it happens naturally in its own good time we got a mistaken idea of what Atlantis was this civilization was not a civilization that developed towards the outside but a civilization that developed within if you appreciate that civilization is going to fall but you understand that you reincarnate not just individually but we reincarnate this last 500 years has been a quickening where the Empire Force has spread over the world but it feels like there's other forces that are at work extra dimensional extraplanetary forces if they reach this planet is because they understood how to travel through the Fifth Dimension and if they travel through the Fifth Dimension is because they understand the system like for example the gray ones there are a civilization that for us in Earth they are the bad guys okay let me tell you a story Mattias from our planet so there is a law don't interfere with planets that are evolving in Consciousness so aliens aren't going to save us oh no of [Music] course Matias John wow look at this combination nice to meet you so as we were outside talking one of the things that came up was this deeper understanding of the importance of remembering our history so that we can actually recognize the patterns and the cycles and then make the necessary adjustments to those patterns and cycles and so I just want to open this conversation up with a remembering of there was a time when there was a flourishing civilization that felt like nothing could stop it well the idea of Atlantis um with that name emerges for the Greek people the Greek people got the stories from Egypt and the Egyptians from the previous civilization and that previous civilization from their ancestors that were from the Atlantic Ocean uh so I would say that most of the stories that we have today about the civilization they were described by the Greek tradition um describing the idea of the civilization as if it were a magical civilization or uh an Utopia for their own governments like they wanted to tell something to the people that we could become like that eventually with the perfect order with the perfect civilization and everything so I think that since the Greek time with the description of that Civilization we got also a mistaken idea of what Atlantis was uh like if it was a civilization exactly as we have today with technology like huge technology or or very I don't know uh Dubai Style with um with this weird constructions and so on but actually uh from my memories this civilization was actually not a civilization that developed towards the outside at a civilization that developed within and in the last period tried to manifest everything outside because they knew that otherwise they would forget everything and they would disconnect eventually so wait so so what you're saying is the Atlantis was focused on the atlantes were focused on the inner science es yeah and then in the fear of forgetting the inner Sciences like we had we started focusing on the outer exterior Sciences so we don't die right so we don't finish and this was when they understood that everything has a beginning and an end and whatever they are they were building within eventually it would collapse it would disappear for other to start a new cycle so they needed to build machines for time they needed to build machines to remember how to connect with the interweaving of all dimensions and if they come back in the future they would have the tools there to do it so that's why we don't actually find many things from a civilization because usually archaeologists try to find I don't know uh jars or uh golden things or I don't know um things thats roads things that would say oh this was a very expansive civilization like the Romans for example but they actually they weren't like that they were more connected with the land they were more related to uh tiny temples that were for the within and they would create huge pyramids but maybe there were tiny houses around or small villages with domes but that's it so most of the great civilization that we picture sometimes uh it was not civilization towards outside to conquer it was a civilization to understand that's why we when we connect with that Civilization we we usually uh talk about the wisdom that they had the last Spirit of Atlantis was to conquer the last Spirit of Atlantis was so that's when it started to turn exactly because they knew their their time was finishing it was ending so they started to get SC how did they know Cycles they were connected Stars the planet they understood in the same way as you have spring uh summer autumn winter they knew that whatever blossoms in Spring eventually will die in Autumn but for a civilization it takes maybe 2,000 years so they understood the cycles of everything so they knew exactly in 2,400 years our civilization will turn off for others to rise so they we need to get ready for that moment so we could transcend and not be for goson so I'm trying to understand so then what was the motive for them to turn to Conquest why did they think that Conquest would be their salvation because there were many uh different powers in the civilization like they didn't have a king or the major priest or something like that they had many layers of governments and they started to disagree in how the power should be uh kept going like the high priest they said well we should die and be remember in 12,000 years the king said with the families said we need to bring this message to other cultures so they can remember us and we can create communities all over the world so in case something happens to us another Ones Will Remember Through Blood and the military they said they don't want to do that so we have to force them to do that we have to force them and so they started to use the technology of the pyramids as a way to control the others and they started to use the inner power for the outer power and that's how the civilization entering a conflict within itself so the wise people left Atlantis and went to the Nile or to Mexico um others just decided to get lost in the mountains in the the kashian mountains or Tibet or um in North America some others in South America so they all spread trying to leave the power of control of the last 500 years of That civilization and usually that's the moment that most of the people rememb as a trauma of that Civilization like oh yeah they they Atlantis was a civilization that tried to control everyone and they were warriors and and powerful and they wanted to conquer and they started a war with Loria and this this this moment of the trauma was more heavier than the past 5,000 years of that Civilization that actually was a civiliz a civilization that was designed to within as I said that's why people don't usually find the daily life things because they knew that it was all essential so they wouldn't keep anything they would just restore everything to Nature until the last period and the only things that they actually build to be a remember were the huge structures that were used as a technology so that was the most important things for them because because in that in that way they would be remembered not not as a civilization they would be born again and they could use it again so H is because they had the the the understanding of their reincarnation the fact that they were going to keep coming back yeah and so they started to to plan for their future reincarnation for at least 24,000 years it's like now the presidents make a plan for four years we did a plan for 24,000 when Matias talks about this you know obviously you've been you know deeply in meshed in of course your own tradition you know the Buddhist tradition but also the ancient history of our civilization so as he describes this what does that evoke in uh from you John well I'm sitting here and just reflecting on how we're at a similar moment in the cycle and the similar squabbling that's happening um no doubt um you know there's various various people in government who are aware of these Cycles but these Cycles our civilization has been so disconnected from sacred World we're so separated that we're not aware of these Cycles so if you think of the effect of Christianity on the last 2,000 years of separating ourselves from the sacred and putting the sacred elsewhere so that we we're not we're not aware we're not prepared we're not ready we don't know what time it is and then and then as far as I'm aware those in government who are aware of what time it is well some of them are like we're going to just dig a hole right there's the we're going to dig a there's the we're going to dig a hole in the ground approach um possibly under the Denver Airport possibly not possibly but but u i mean you seal those underground cities in Turkey yeah right I mean they were built for they were built for something for something so the first thing I'm aware of is just the degree of poverty of our civilization just in terms of just being so disconnected from the Cycles even of the of the Season let alone the cycles of the planet let alone a 12,000 micro you know solar micronova cycle we just we just we just so deeply disconnected the sacred in that in that way um and and and then it the the next reflection as well in order to fa in order to understand the cosmology it isn't just about these cosmological Cycles it's also about a deeper appreciation of of of Gaia of our planet and of our reincarnator process that is a part of our planet's evolutionary pulse right if you appreciate that your civilization is going to fall but you understand that you reincarnate not just individually but we incar we reincarnate and that that is it's not anthropo it's not anthropocentric that is a function of a larger organism that's pulsing and growing which is the m herself right a mother um so I think the first thing what speaks is well how deeply like disoriented we are completely disoriented and not ready for any kind of cyclic transformation even like spiritually right like we just like the fact that that in order for something to be born something has to die I like uh and in order to live you have to be okay with death like so the very fact that we've avoid we've avoided this history we've avoided the possibility that we will die as a collective means that we're not really we're not we don't live either right we're we're kind of we're numbed so these are these are the things that are coming up yeah I mean thinking about th --- ents the mission in this life because it's not just about me and my family it is about me and my family but it's also Beyond me and my family because my family enlarges to the family of Gaia the planet and all of civilization and how no matter what happens that we set up ourselves in the best way that we can for the future civilizations to come and do our best to ease the transition and Salvage what we can here but just feeling that I also recognize that I haven't even though I know that to be true haven't allowed it to fully seep into my bones and really really get it so you know that's that's one thing I just wanted to reflect as moving through me and I also want to go back to this idea of because I think it was a you know not true but partial explanation for the desire for conquest and the desire for Empire right like so based on fear based on scarcity based on that but it feels like there's other forces that are at work in this Beyond just survival and Beyond just these even extradimensional extraplanetary forces that are actually looking to undermine life itself looking to control squash dehumanize degrade life with a capital LH itself and it seems like these forces have been very active and are very active now I'm just curious from your perspective m is to talk about these forces from a cosmological standpoint and then potentially other you know stories that you've heard of other star systems that decided to go one way or another way and how these forces have kind of influenced in a history that even extends further back than our own history we're talking about this galaxy or Lucifer well both why not why not yeah when if we talk about the origin of uh the forces that makes everything to collapse and to um corrode in existence turn upside down yeah um the the first one that did that the first uh creation that did that was Division and we have talked about this How the Universe in order to fall in love with itself needed to split into two like humanizing the idea of romanticizing the idea of a particle divided in the wave so when the wave choose to divide itself in two different particles we divided the universe but in that split a spark of light was created and that's that's what we call the beer of Light which is lucus ferus which is Lucifer so it means that from the trauma of division light arose but it was a trauma so the very moment of Enlightenment in the universe when one thing divided in two it created the most beautiful thing but at the same moment it created the first trauma so the system of following the light is a system that constantly divides and which is the Paradox we we talked once um the Paradox of as closer you get to the light more likely you will burn and it's because the system in order to create options to be manifested to to be uh to feel life you need to divide many more options so there is a system in the universe which is the system of light that is constantly dividing something so every time that is a spark there's something that has to be divided so when we leave that trauma boom I see Clarity oh I understood so there's one side of the universe that is forcing us constantly to divide as the universe the main goal of the universe was let's divide in order to understand the link because when everything is one you cannot feel the link so you need division in order to understand the connection so there's one side of the universe that says I feel the other and there's another side of the universe that says for you to feel it I need to create the other the opposite it so as we get closer to the light there is one system that says it means that I have to divide you more so we call that evil but actually is a system of division in order for you to find light so evil and good are just perception of human morality of something that in the universe is very natural which is a wave divided into two particles and these two particles are constantly divided into other two and other two and other two and it creates many thousands of billions of options that creates confusion and that's what we uh understand as the the source of evil or the source of uh separation source of conflict polarity Duality as something that pull us apart from the sense of unity but even though it was the trauma that created the path towards Unity towards the understanding of why we need Unity so is this Paradox of we need each other in order to find Unity because we wouldn't be talking about this if there is no conflict in the world like why to explain this if everyone is living in peace and Harmony no no we wouldn't be in this quest of trying to understand better why we are here so um for other worlds it's different because they are not mamals for example so they don't have this relationship with Mom and Dad so they don't have this relationship also for example in in Sirius there are some planets that uh they only have two hours of night let's say two hours there are two suns so usually you have two Sunrise to sunsets very short so it means that they evolve in a way that they don't need much to sleep so they are all the time awaken so this means that as more stars are closer to you um less confusion so they didn't need to go through the process of the trauma of separation of mom and dad the Moon and the Sun the night and the light uh it was not biological design like that because the structure of their solar system was different so um for every planet is completely different the path of what is evil and what is good um but everyone understands when we are we when we reach a point of Consciousness we all understand that every separation is part of the creation every Unity is part of the purpose so that's why the aware civilizations in other realities they don't interfere with our Evolution because they understand that planet Earth and not Humanity planet Earth we are part of the planet planet Earth is in a path of evolution according to having one sun and one Moon having 12 hours of night 12 day let's say uh with a cycle of 24,000 years because of the Precision of the equinoxes so they cannot force a planet that is learning what is Duality because that would be what happened here with uh Christo colon how is it English Christopher Columbus Christopher Columbus um coming here and saying to everyone Jesus is the word like maybe in the Mediterranean Sea but here we had aaska you know that was better than Jesus you know but but um but they said no this is better so they imposed the truth so aliens wouldn't do that because if they reached this planet is because they understood how to travel through the Fifth Dimension and if they travel through the Fifth Dimension is because they understand the system so so they they wouldn't come and force us to follow the light because it's not so aliens aren't going to save us oh no of course and you know I guess I guess then it's it's very it's almost impossible to see out of the prism of you know I had a speaking of iwasa I had a very deep iwasa Journey where I understood that the God that I call God which is good God and good y and it is our God actually in a way as if our our planet's God and that there was actually other conceptions of God that could exist and those Gods could have different ideas and it's interesting to think about you know I just recently rewatched the movie Dune you ever see the movie Dune Manas it seems pretty clear from our God's perspective goodness perspective there's the Fran and then there's a heinens right freman good heinens [ __ ] that like want no [ __ ] parts of that you know and then there's the other civilizations that are somewhere somewhere in between trying to find the trying to find the balance where the protagonist of the story comes from I forget what that Civilization is called but ultimately like I guess it would be fair to say that in the har if from the Harkin's system and the Harkin's God system of what is good maybe they're killing it yeah you know what I mean like like killing or something right like I mean but then then as they interfere the problem is when they interfere with a world like the femin that's what's [ __ ] up that's the collaps that's what's [ __ ] up because they're imposing their good and bad onto a place where they imposition is clearly bad mhm and so that's where when you start to cross cross those ideas but it's diff it's difficult it's such a stretch to imagine imagine diff different conceptions I want to extend the good out universally right so the question you had around extending good and evil out right I mean if you think of from one perspective evil is what happens when trauma when the when the cycle of trauma keeps going and it's not processed and rather than opening and releasing and feeling there's a process of contraction more more more more contraction and then it gets to a point where it's so contracted that no longer wants to feel the pain projects it out and then attacks what's there so you have you can think of evil as complete contraction right and and of course which is in the Buddhist tradition this is the wheel going one way and you have the wheel going the other so you can look at it in terms of splitting which is one way of or you can look at it in terms of what direction is the wheel going right and you can you can have you can evolve civilization with the wheel going the wrong way I mean we saw with the Nazis right we saw like oh that wheel could just if that wheel had kept going and kept going and kept going you could you could have levels of of evil that uh that that yeah and clearly that I mean that's in our God and goodness right so like there is in it's not that we're creating a moral relativism in our own in our own world mhm there is Nazis are not the same as the yaan AWA brothers who we just got to meet and witness not the same no not the same no sorry not the same they're not morally equivalent that's right they're different and so there's but then and then it's just opening up then the the way in which we extend this out through the cosmos it's the same kind of cycle so we're referring to a cycle here Rel a planet but there there would obviously be even larger Cycles where the same process that we're talking about drama and The Narrative of of of Earth and Atlantis happens on one large even larger scale where it isn't just planets reincarnating it's Stellar systems re right it gets a bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger same process repeating itself as as the galactic or organism just like a planet is an organism and has a Karma so so does a Galaxy so that process can we we probably would see it throughout the cosmos right so then if we go from that Galactic Federation kind of perspective it still seems as though there's certain thin --- s your decision to feel that the farmer is a bad guy or if it's the good guy that is taking care of you or are there are there both is this are there bad farmers who actually want to just wipe out possibility and complexity for some darker origin or to harvest some energy from us or do something and then are there the good Farmers that want to see how our Consciousness develops and see what if we talk about harvesting emotion is very good energy to harvest so of course as more unaware you are more energy you create that you are not aware of so you don't know how to handle your energy so someone else can eat it so for sure there are some beings in other dimensions that they try for you not to be aware so they can use your energy so let's say the bad Farmers vampire vampire Farmers yeah kind of like that yeah but as I said um before this podcast we were eating so for someone in nature in this planet we also are the bad Farmers yeah so yeah life has keep going MH energy exchange yeah but interplanetary and I think that and so when you become aware as a planet that cannot happen so the planet itself is protecting the whole thing so basically um that's why some people don't want for us to become aware but they cannot kill us because otherwise they cannot have mother's SS so in that sense the uh the aligning with the unfolding of the planet itself it's its intelligence yeah like our our Awakening it's not our Awakening it's Awakening to to planetary intelligence yeah and that as that happens then something else happens because it's a much deeper degree of integration oh yeah right so that start to listen the so so that this this Awakening process is a essentially about becoming becoming the planet when that happens there's a a much deeper level of cohesion coherence and protect the and integration right because it's a it's a now it's a it's the planet as a conscious integrated entity be continuous Contin its its its evolutionary is there is there a story mius of another planet or that has gone as far into what Charles eisenstein would call the myth of Separation you know he he told a story in his book a more beautiful world our hearts know as possible and he talks about you know in his fictional story there's never been a planet that's gone this deep into separation and made its way back you know just hypothetically right like like we've gone really far we've been so disconnected from the planetary Consciousness that John is talking about about like is there is there are there stories of other other maybe it's in our own planet or maybe it's in other planets of of planets losing losing their bearings to the degree that we've lost our bearings with the interconnectedness of the planet well at least many of us yeah and then finding their way back home yeah of course of course there there are planets that even died like forever and they need to go to other planets like the anunaki the anunaki didn't came here because they wanted to go on queer they came here because they had nowhere to go they their Planet died because they were so lost so mother earth received them and said this will be your home so that's why they were able to leave for a period of time here because um if the planet don't want you it will do everything to kill you and they survived so that means that Mother Earth allowed them to be here with love because she understood that they just didn't know what to do and our planet is um unconditional come here Lost Children of the exactly Cosmos like I'll show you some motherly love exactly and maybe you'll find your way again so they found love and they [ __ ] everyone and here we are yeah so the so these I mean the the forgetting could go all the way to existential destruction complete complete existential destruction of the whole planet you could forget so much that you kill everything or you could just depend depend on how quickly we we remember so this process is about like how fast can we remember and we remember before we have before we forget so deeply that there's you know even greater and greater and greater Calamity that we have to face so it it seems like that's really our directive here is like how quickly and deeply can we remember who we really are faster you mean yeah like isn't that wouldn't that be the impulse is like what are we what are we what are we working for striving for fighting for we're fighting for a remembering that takes place quick enough yeah that it avoids existential Calamity you know right like I think let's compare it with something simple in this case like if you would have a child what would you do to teach him like would you force him to follow the right path or would you give them the free the freedom to choose and to learn from their mistakes like you would say to them this is the right path you have to honor this God you have to be good in this way or you would say this is how I lived and discover your own way like how would you rise a child yeah but if you had a child who was playing with fire and they were and they were trying to light your house on fire yeah you'd probably go like yo yo yo yo you have toid Li wait wait yeah yeah you have limits well but if in this house if you forbid him from use the fire he will burn the house uhuh so uh so what would you say like like this is not the right place to use the fire but we can go there and burn these things yeah and try here you know so because the need of learning and when you are learning you don't know what is the outcome so there are beings that follow rules and beings that try to find a different way so um usually our mind is trying to find different ways so if you forbid this your mind will try to find a way to do it anyway so that's why the learning process of a of a child is to create the environment for them to practice without hurting others yeah we're hella creative it's like Mormons and they're soaking you know about Mormons and soaking no okay let me tell you a story Matias from our planet from our great from our planet yeah so in and I've heard this from you know from a Mormon friend of mine who told me this story crack it up so basically you know premarital sex is forbidden and the act of intercourse is forbidden so what they've devised to get around the Forbidden law is what's called soaking and soaking is where you penetrate but you don't thrust back and forth right but if you got a good friend who's with you the friend can jump on the bed so yeah so it creates the motion so that you're not actually doing it so you're not doing the Forbidden you're not [ __ ] the bed is doing the [ __ ] for you you just happen you're soaking not [ __ ] friend friend good friend you want your heaviest friend you got you you got your thick boy Mormon soaking assistant who's just good and just bounc it on the in just the right way you see you find a way you find a way you will always find a way no so that's why you create always the environment for that so go back to what you were saying oh let's just redirect this one um you know I think the the other way to to think about this is that um clearly um clearly the the world desperately needs to awaken and yet if one moves in that process to help awaken people from a place of existential anxiety where you're still looking for your survival in that process then actually it's going to just mhm right the the only the only elegant way is to essentially live in that world that our hearts know is possible right now like like really right now and then yeah be the living invitation and then to the other way right so that so that then however people because in the long run in in all of these cycles that actually in the long run is probably what make is what allows for real growth okay hello Siro you're now the fourth guest on the podcast there you go buddy it's it's one thing to for all of us to feel like to feel the sense of urgency and an existential um the Met crisis that we have right and how it wants us it's like when things want to go fast slow down I mean that's what I hear it's like you want to go faster we slow down because the only the only possible way of allowing that culture to arise to whatever degree it can is from that it's from that place yeah that we right well otherwise we just get whipped up into the the speed of of vempire that's what I was trying to say with a with a child like you can force someone that has five years old to do something that someone with 50 years old would do you know like just because you know with 50 years old that that's not right or that's not good um there's a process of many years in between that needs a lot of practice to become that and as Humanity as as Homo sapiens sapiens we have been in this planet for 3 million years compared to the history of the planet it's nothing so we are we have gone too fast in a process that actually takes more time like millions of years until you become actually a planet imagine the dinosaurs have been billions of M millions of years and and they were just practicing something becoming the Earth but no with awareness just with unconscious so then with Consciousness everything speed up so that's why Mumble started to become so aware and it was faster and faster and faster but the process of evolution takes a long time it's not something that we will experience in just this life is Cycles after and and the the impulse to create external technology versus internal technology has put us in a place where Tech technology externally has outpaced our inner technology so much so and that's why we're in a [ __ ] tight spot it's exactly if you think of if we were to bring up our internal Tech to the level of the degree our out of tech is like like I don't know like that's like that's so much ground that needs to be covered right I mean so much ground it's it's a it's a huge gap yeah and we you know we starting with psychedelics right we're going right like we're beginning but like imagine that process we lost psychedelics 2,000 years ago yeah so now we're beginning we've lost 2,000 years in that particular department and we did it as children yeah like in Egypt when you were seven years old here you are mushrooms Blue Lotus BL Lotus so this this was your this was your lifetime in in cam right so you were using the sacred plants and you know there were no teachers they the the teachers gave you a tea so you would do a ceremony with a tea you would drink that tea you start to see and the teacher would start to ask you questions so it's the opposite just come out yeah so so you would learn through the question questions so the teacher would say what is this what is that and you would start to see the answer so it was the opposite and then when the effect was gone you d --- 's only in the need of expressing something that I was forbidden for so long so it creates confusion and Trauma yeah that makes a lot of [ __ ] sense it takes time it takes time it takes time the as we're wrapping up it's been a a long day we're going deep into the night here and uh the the last thing I want to touch on is you know I'm wearing this necklace now and I've described this necklace it's about relationships that I have that are not sexual and in in nature but they're deep deep close friendships and alliances and this is like a symbol of my inner circle of my like closest friends and and my own tribe within a greater tribe you know there's many more people that are not represented on this necklace who I love very much but what was the what was the idea around because you probably had a much greater sense of community for your whole civilization but were there was there anything involving like developing the relationships with your friends your brothers your sisters you know what was that psycho technology the inner technology the fruition of that how did that look like the deepest friendships that you had and how you cultivated those and and the importance of those um Community we um we interpreted that family was not the blood so um so we lived in communities not families at least that's how all the ancient Traditions used to do like um um every every woman was a mother a sister uh every man was a brother um so I mean you see that in Hawaii you have the Ohana everybody's Auntie everybody's Uncle you know there's this idea that it's beyond just the blood that there's some other sacred Bond yeah there yeah I think that that um that the idea of just the family was created because of the of the how do you uh the king and feudalism tradition and the hereditary transfer of wealth yeah and title EXA so they said we have to create a family separated from other families and stuff like that and by separating Clans the process of Empire leads to greater and greater separation a clan is so much more potent than a than a couple than a than a little family yeah right mean so much more power when you're a clan than if you're just a an isolated family and as I said before for us was we were divided in in elements and we only can cross with certain elements I had my sister was another element but even though we were in certain moments together doing stuff specifically for uh our lives but um but I had my family as the water and the water Clan and she had she had her family as the heir so even if we were the same blood our clans were more important that than the family we were born in um so um because that creates a connection through time and through um like like a like a soul that holds each other Beyond Time beyond space um yeah so we that's how we lived it yeah that way yeah John what what would you like to uh what would you like to ask Matias as we kind of bring this to a close anything that's sparked in your own mind or anything you'd like to offer hearing this really deep remembering of of sacred world and sacred relationship I think I'm I'm I'm curious about how how do you suggest yeah as we as this cycle is repeating itself again how do you suggest the people prepare themselves what is what does that mean what does that mean for that to to happen again and and and what does it mean for people to come into right relationship with we are despite the obvious Gap that we have between ourselves and and and how it was in previous times yeah the well of course that there is something uh today that we are it's a global thing that now we have to take care of the planet it's a whole it's the whole thing before it wasn't this is now a a global Sy exactly exactly before it was a region during the atlantan time it was it was a whole but after Atlantis there was regions right and we were protecting regions and connecting with regions now it's a whole again yeah we are repeating the same pattern right the cycle of a worldwide civilization that connected everything through pyramids that we have the same cultures similar languages and now we all kind of speak kind of the same languages even if each one has their own um so it starts to be Global again yeah we started to talk about the net again yeah about nodes um so um we started to recreate what Atlantis was but in the mood of Aquarius of course um so and globally we we have this thing now of taking care of the planet mhm which is again from the point of view of we human humans have the task of save the world you know which is a old story that doesn't make sense um so I think that this is the first step for people to engage with the planet and start to wonder how to take care of the planet so that is the first step to become the planet M so um what I what I suggest what I would suggest is for people to start understanding the main subtle things like why do we have 24 hours why there is a North Pole physical and one magnetical why um the seasons change um to understand why the Moon is there why we have 12 months so there are so simp such a simple things that you don't even study in school like when they when you learn about that in school it's not powerful it's just like data but it's not powerful you don't you don't feel it you don't learn how to connect with that and and I think one of the most important thing to understand is that uh we are not trying to awaken in this life because we have to accomplish something as soon as possible this is in every day we have this practice that we are going to sleep we wake up we do stuff in the day we go to sleep again so this first cycle helps you understand that you have you can do stuff and there's a moment to relax and you can so uh when you die happens the same and the cycle is constant and understanding the Cycles helps you to know that you are not um late that you are not um uh failing anything that it doesn't matter if you don't accomplish that in this life because when a branch cannot give a fruit in this C cycle maybe next summer it will but maybe it needed to go inside and store energy for them to Blossom again so um I would suggest to take the chance to look into nature because we we went outside the cycle of nature we don't understand how nature repeats itself once and again we we lost that connectivity on how humans also do the same how civilizations arise and fall is the same as summer and fall it's is exactly the same thing so um uh religions also do the same is a process go up go down a civilization a country a family a relationship so it's all Cycles is it's constantly that so as soon we can engage with that we are not going to get enlightened we are going to live in harmony yeah so first thing to understand don't do this to get enlightened MH or to finish something or to arrive somewhere mhm because there is Noone there's no way to go the Earth is [Music] rounded even if you running a right in a straight line you arrive the same place yeah so yeah so yeah so that that kind of that wisdom of of um learning what it means to start harmonizing with Cycles like that the you know in the Buddhist tradition this is what they when they talk about kala chakra the time wheel The Awakening the enlightenment happens through the cyle like through the cycles you harmonize yourself with the cycles and it happens naturally in it in its own good time yeah but if you try and be somewhere else in some other time yeah rather than learning the lessons that we have to learn right now yeah totally that they the U for me when I started to remember when I was 12 years old what my life 12,000 years ago I was desperate because I was like my gosh like I need to do this and this and this right now in order to accomplish what I couldn't do in 12,000 years and suddenly I said 12,000 years like I have time you know and I remember a very high priest who was kind of an alien that an alien yeah and uh i w we weren we wasn't supposed to look into their eyes and and I did and he he he said um he said now because of you have seen my eyes you will leave with a burden with a bargain of knowing that you have to wait 12,000 years to do it and and I remember that time uh when they said I said why so long and said there's a time for everything we are not in a rush we will see again but you just have to do other things in the middle so he was he was so calm about waiting 12,000 years to just do something I'm so impatient I'm so I guess also another realization that's coming here is you know well the cycles of our civil our civilization is is impatient I mean that the thing is is we are harmonized with these Cycles and they're in our nervous systems I don't know if you're that I mean yes but if you if we run that Rhythm we feel impatient because the world is rushing us up world yeah it's the civilization is like we have to do something new no no yeah I so I understand that I'm a product of our culture and civilization however from this other New Perspective that's washing over me and and like everything you the things that you're bringing though auy are reflections of slowing down it's true right like it's a reflection of remembering yeah of remembering exactly yeah that that if we want to go faster we actually have to go slower that's why you have to leave the trauma yeah to slow down yeah yeah yeah wow well this is a wild [ __ ] podcast let's suffer and slow down anything else uh either one of you guys want to add before we uh drift off into our little sleep death that awaits us see you in 12,000 years I'm see you tomorrow [ __ ] I'm see you tomorrow I'm not done with you yet Matas we got got some we got some more time here well thank you everybody for tuning into this podcast and uh and having some fun with us on this journey of remembering and thank you Matias for offering your wisdom a very unique set of wisdom thank you John for really understanding such similar wisdom from your own lens and your own your own way and in my own way I've you know studied the wisdom in way that I could and this is also the beauty of this time is that we're able to through this external technology communication actually and planes and ability to travel we're able to gather put microphones in front of us exchange ideas communicate and start to weave uh a new story of a new human and a new humanity and a new uh a new civilization so thank you to you both I love you guys thank you for giving this space brother yeah thank you thanks everybody see you next week thanks for tuning in to this video make sure you hit subscribe follow me at Aubrey Marcus check out the 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