Forensic geologist Scott Wolter, in long-form conversation with Aubrey Marcus, argues that Templar leadership were the biological — not just ideological — descendants of Yeshua and Mary Magdalene, and that the Oak Island treasure includes documents biblical scholars have never seen, including eight autobiographical scrolls he attributes to Yeshua himself.
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The Templar leadership were not just the ideological descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene and that tradition, but the biological. This turns everything on its head. This is a massive massive statement here that actually Yeshua had children. >> When I say that they were married, they were buried in the same tomb. Jesus, son of Joseph. James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus. Maria, Joseph, Judah, son of Jesus. That's pretty compelling evidence right there. [music] >> Wow. >> The cipher phrase occurs 13 times. And if you get to that cipher phrase shows up and you don't get it perfect and you screwed [music] it up, do you know what that cipher phrase is? The power of God. At the end of the letter, he lists what they have left. And [music] there are documents in there that biblical scholars have never heard of, including eight Yeshua scrolls. >> Autobiographical written in his own pen [music] the words of Yeshua. >> I can neither confirm nor deny, brother [laughter] Scott. You are a Freemason, a Knights Templar, a forensic geologist, and you believe that there was a treasure planted in Oak Island by the Knights Templars sometime way before Christopher Columbus even made his journey to discover America, quotes, discover America. So, what is going on with Oak Island? What was there and why it was there? Who put it there? and and where this mystery is leading you now as you're kind of unraveling it. >> Okay. Well, that was a big question and it's it's hard to answer that simply, but I think the the best way to to start is to say yes, there was a treasure that originally was put on Oak Island. Uh it was done by the Knights Templar as part of a bigger mission, a bigger plan, if you will. Uh actually, you know, I I use the phrase the Templars would never put all their eggs in one basket. Nobody would put all their eggs in one basket. And I think when you watch the show, you sort of get that, you know, that idea that, you know, it's it this is the treasure. The truth is there were that we know of about 30 treasures that were buried in multiple locations including Oak Island beginning in 1395. again in 1398 when Earl Henry Sinclair brought over the Templar treasure as you if you will um that was hidden in Scotland after the Templars were put down and disappeared into history and um October 13th of 1307. So um the story is is is much bigger than Oak Island, but it Oak Island definitely played a role in this story. that was treasured there for a number of years about 400 years and then in 1769 it was recovered along with other treasures those other treasures that I mentioned and um you know that gets into a question we might want to talk about later is what is the treasure? I mean treasure is different things to different people and most people when they think of the Oak Island treasure or Templar treasure they think of gold and silver and jewels and that certainly was part of it but if you asked a Templar what the treasure was uh they wouldn't focus on those items but those items were very important because in the end when those treasures were recovered the gold and the silver the wealth if you will the money was used to help fund the revolution and uh Actually, that revolution was the completion of a much longer, more important mission that the uh the Templars were pursuing and and successfully completed that was called the Covenant. >> Wow. All right. So, which parts of this story are still actively disputed? I mean, it seems like the recovery of this monetary treasure to help fund the American Revolution, that part seems like most people can agree on it, but is is the most contested aspect that the Oak Island treasure and other repositories in this in the United States actually occurred pre-Colus? >> Oh, absolutely they did. As I said, um, well, based on the documents that we have, they're something called the Cremona document, which I am now, uh, just finishing a book with, um, a guy that essentially brought these documents to me, um, is paired with, um, another story about really the another uh, aspect of the same covenant, if you will, and that's in a book that I just published. uh called the Sinclair Williams journals. But there a lot of this information that I'm going to be talking to you about is not published yet and uh really goes into much more detail about the story which includes Oak Island. The Cremona document also talks about Oak Island uh in great detail. Um, like I said, this this story actually goes all the way back to the beginning of the Crusades when the Templar Order was originally founded. And when they captured Jerusalem back in 1118 and the first Grandmaster was installed, uh, Hugh Depeans, their mission uh, was not to capture Jerusalem for the the Roman church. really what they wanted to do was establish a base or of operations in the region so they could go into different areas and recover uh treasures. I'll I'll call it treasures in the region like Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt uh and of course in in um in Israel. So >> uh there there's a lot more to the Templar story that passes through Oak Island. it. Oak Island is just one part of it, but Oak Island is really very important and the show is important because it's bringing um the Templars and the idea of bringing treasure over uh to North America that was hidden for a long period of time. But they had a mission. They had a goal. This covenant was ultimately to establish a sanctuary. Uh something in the journals they called a free Templar state. They also called it the new Jerusalem. Brother Francis Bacon called it the new Atlantis. And we now call it today the United States of America. And one of the most important things I think people need to know is that going back to when the Templars were put down in 1307, October 13th and 1307, they were persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church and the monarchs of Europe, King Philip the Fair of France, right? They combined with each other uh legitimized each other their power grew and eventually they suppressed the Templars. So when they escaped with all their treasures and disappeared into history, this is pretty much where the story ends. But really for us, this is where our story really begins. And what they did is they took those treasures to Scotland and then eventually they were brought over to North America. And like I said, ultimately that wealth portion was used to to fund um the revolution and the United States. >> So the wealth is an important part of the story from a kind of geopolitical sense. However, it's not the most interesting part of the story because of course they were preserving some wealth because that's energy that they could use in the direction >> to creating a sanctuary as you said for actually the truth to be held because at the time and throughout all the dark ages and actually well earlier when Hipatia was ripped apart by fundamentalists and you know 400 AD something around there she was an aostcoy a Telsty and since then there was this massive suppression, the burning of documents, the destruction of artifacts that went against a fundamentalist interpretation of the Council of Nika Bible and also monarchal, you know, desires and, you know, kind of power intentions that the big players had. So the the Templars were actually more importantly than hoarding treasure like we would think of gold and silver like dloons. They were hoarding and saving truth from those forces of empire which were seeking to eradicate and erase truth and change history and keep us from remembering who the [ __ ] we are, where the [ __ ] we came from, and what these great avatars were here to teach us. brother. I couldn't have said it better myself. Are you sure you're not a Templar? [laughter] >> I'm pretty sure. I'll go check though, >> Aubrey. Well, if you're not, you uh you will be. And I say that and I'm not I'm not just blowing false praise to you. Um you're doing the work, man. And and I appreciate that. And and yes, you hit the nail on the head. The Templars, as I said, really pretended to be Catholic, but they were anything but that. They were uh the keepers of truth. They were the ones that knew what the real history was prior to the council of Nika. And frankly, uh they knew the truth about Jesus and his teachings. uh Mary Magdalene, John the Baptist and that whole scenic tradition uh which um there is a narrative that people are taught in the Roman tradition and it's not at all the truth. It's it's completely the opposite of what Jesus was really teaching. And um I will also just come right out and tell you that the Templar leadership were not just the ideological descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene and that tradition, but the biological descendants. And there was information that was passed down through these bloodline families, if you will, that ultimately led to the Templars forming um that order. And uh as I said, pretending to be Catholic, but they had a completely different uh mission in mind. And you know, we talked about treasures and as you said and we we both have mentioned uh gold and silver and jewels are are necessary items, but those are not the true treasures. Um I'm going to ask you a question. Are you familiar with something called the Telpiat tomb? >> I am not. I am not. And I and I want to go into that. But first of all, I have to give the audience a moment to catch their breath because you just said the lineage of Yeshua, which means that that Jesus had children. Yeshua had children >> and those children. Now, I'm I'm tampering my own surprise because I already went down this surprise rabbit hole and I understood what you were talking about about the Venus bloodlines and this theory, but just for our audience sake, I mean, this turns everything on its head. I mean, this is a massive, massive statement here that actually Yeshua had children and that there was then Mary had children potentially also with John the Baptist. So, so walk us through that really quick and then let's go into the tomb when it when it shows up. >> I I apologize because to me this is um this is just second nature, right? And it's just to me it's obvious and I don't even think about it until I have to think about it like you've just um you know forced me to go back and say, "Oh, that's right. Not everybody thinks the way you do, Scott." Um but I've been involved in this for a long time. So, it's become pretty uh uh like I said, second nature. But yes, I mean when we go back to um the time of Jesus and and uh John the Baptist, you know, John the Baptist was um you know, the initiator. He was the one who initiated Jesus. Uh most Roman Christians will are very familiar with the image of of Jesus or his real name was Yeshua and that's the proper term we should be using, but I think for the audience, we'll just go with Jesus because that's second nature to them. Um, but anyway, this this baptism ritual where he John the Baptist is taking clamshell and he's pouring water over Jesus's head and he's being baptized. Well, if you look at many of these images um of of this particular scene, there are clues that tell you that this was indeed not a baptism per se, but an initiation. M >> and um you know I'm uh being a Freemason, I know what signs, symbols, and tokens to look for. And I'll just give you one for example. Sometimes when you see Jesus standing there and he's being baptized or initiated, he'll have his feet in a 90° angle like this. The Freemasons that are listening will know exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes you will see the arm in a 90° position. Um there will be other symbols around that will tell you that this is an initiation. I'll give you another example. Um you're familiar in in uh many churches of the stations of the cross right? >> Mhm. >> And there are 14 of those, right? >> Yep. >> There are 14 stations of the cross. That's a significant number which we don't have to go into at the moment. But when you go through the stations of the cross, you will see that Jesus is um pushed down or he is struck with something and he falls three times, right? >> Yep. >> Uh that is analogous to something that happens in the --- one of the greatest stories that people have talked about is at the battle of Banickburn in 1314 uh where the Scots defeated the English in the greatest historical batter battle in the history of Scotland that there were Templer knights that helped them turn the tide of the battle in favor of the Scots. And um that story is true. It did happen. Um because and and because of that the Scottish Earls because of their service at Banickburn and this great victory over the British, uh the Scottish Earls were then obligated to protect those Templar knights and their descendants. And they did that from 1307 all the way to 1395 and 1398 when those treasures were then brought over to Nova Scotia uh into the Great Lakes region uh and farther south in uh what is now um uh the United States. So most of those treasures were buried in Canada, but at that time there were no political borders. It was just the western lands is what they called it. So when when you start to put this whole story together and you compare it with the historical narrative as you brought up uh Chris, I call him Chris, the guy that never set foot on the land we now call the United States of America. Um and he was a horrible person. He was an awful mayor. Um and you know, did he know about um you know, North and South America? Absolutely he did. How did he know about it? Well, he pulled a nun out of a nunnery who was um [clears throat] the daughter of a drum who inherited Earl Henry Sinclair, the guy I told you about that brought the treasures over and [clears throat] mapped all of North and South America. Well, he mapped North America. Uh but they, this Drummond, uh was a sea captain and he inherited all these maps and then she got the maps. So Columbus pulled her out of this this nunnery and married her so he could get access to the maps. He was not a Templar. He was not part of the tradition. Like I said, he was a real [ __ ] and he was brutal to the natives. And like I said, he never set well he never set foot on North America until his fourth trip. He came over four times and he was flying the Templar cross on his sails not because he was a Templar but because he knew that the indigenous people who had already interacted with the Templars and had good relations relations with them uh he knew that they would be received positively. But as I said things did not go very well for the natives. He was greedy. He was brutal and uh and he had just enough knowledge to uh to pull off the caper that he did. And so there's no reason why we should be honoring him for a number of reasons, most notably because he wasn't the first. >> Yeah. Totally. Totally. All right. So, if somebody is invested in the traditional telling of the story of Yeshua and they're saying, "Scott, you're a cook. This is all pseudocience, pseudo history. What is what is the evidence that you point to besides the stories that have been been passed through the order? Aubrey, that's a tough one. It's not. No, it's tough, but it's not tough. Um, well, as I said, we have evidence that's been presented uh and preserved in artwork like Leonardo da Vinci. Um there is um a lot of pervasive stories that um have been passed down through traditions but there are documents that the world actually does not know about yet but they're going to know about very soon. Um I don't know if you've seen you seen that photo. >> I don't know if I have. >> You see I'm holding a green jar. >> Yep. >> Okay. in the Cremona document material that has come to us over the last I think the first document that I ever saw [clears throat] would would have been in 2009 and over these last 16 years oh man I I I can't even tell you how many uh documents maps letters encrypted messages um hundreds at this point that tell a very detailed story about this whole story that we're talking about. What happened after the the council of Nika is the Templar tradition um went underground and certainly went underground after uh 1307. And they took with them their secrets, not just money, uh not just um you know, jewels and gold and silver, but many other things. Treasure is different things to different people, right? People ask me about the Oak Island story and they say, "Do you think do you think those guys will ever find the treasure?" And I say, "They've already found the treasure." The treasure is the show. >> They've done quite well with that show. And in that case, that's one form of treasure. Now, let's go back for a second to the Telpiat tomb. Okay? >> And I'll come back to this green jar in a little bit. One of the things the Templars did when they captured Jerusalem and had control of the region, they went into a place called the Telpiat tomb, uh, it's named Telpiat because it's lo it's a tomb that's loc located located in the East Telpiat neighborhood in southern Jerusalem. And in 1980, there was construction going on on a hillside where they were blasting um the hill uh in preparation for the putting in the foundations for an apartment building. And as they were blasting, they discovered an underground first century tomb. Now, these underground first century tombs are not all that rare. um people involved in the aenic tradition um will understand those. Are you familiar with an ashuary? >> I am. >> Okay. So that is the ashuary tradition. Um and inside this particular tomb they found 10shuaries. Seven inscribed with names, six in Aramaic, one in Greek. And they've been translated from the Aramaic into English. And they have names like these are the inscriptions on these ouaries. Jesus son of Joseph. James son of Joseph, brother of Jesus. Uh Maria, Joseph, Judah, son of Jesus. That's pretty compelling evidence right there. Uh, Matthew and the seventh ouary that was carved in Greek says Maryn the Mara. The mara is a title of honor as in lord, master or queen. Maryn is a pet name for only Mary Magdalene found in the axe of Philillip. M >> so when I say that Jesus uh Yeshua actually said Yeshua uh son of Joseph when I say that they were married they were buried in the same tomb this is a tomb that belonged to Joseph of Arytheia his cousin and their son Judah is buried with them now in 1980 is when the um they discovered this tomb. The Israeli archaeologists went in, they processed the tomb, and those ouaries are now in the Israelis Antiquities archives and you can go look at them if you make an appointment. Now, they don't talk about this and in fact this was suppressed for many years, but um some things have have now happened. One of the things that they discovered when they went in the tomb is that somebody had entered that tomb in the historical past and they did not seal the stone properly uh when they exited and that allowed terror roa soil to flow in from the rose gardens above and filled the tomb up with about 2 feet of this terra roa soil. It was kind of like a muddy organic soil. And so they dug it out. And as they dug out the tomb, they found in the floor of the burial chamber three skulls. And I was the first person to notice when I looked at the placement of those skulls that they were in the east, south, and west quadrants of the tomb. Now, why is this significant? It's significant because that is where the three highest officers sit in a Templar commandry and in a Masonic lodge. And I believe that they were placed in there intentionally. And they were not part of the first century family. They were placed when somebody entered the tomb probably at the time of the first crusade. And it was the Templars who went into their ancestral family tomb to recover the remains of their ancestors because all they found in those ouaries were bone fragments. The main bones had been recovered and removed. So that's interesting, isn't it? I mean, more than interesting. So at some point, so you said Yeshua migrated with Mary and their children to Scotland. At some point they passed and then at that point the their bones were brought back and their bodies or bodies were brought back and buried in the Ashuary. >> And that's that's one possibility. Or they spent time in Scotland and eventually made their way back to Jerusalem. >> Uhhuh. And when they were when they were old enough, they weren't going to be recognized. They could kind of live under the radar there. >> Yep. They could come back after many years and and and live out their lives there. So when I talk about the Templars capturing Jerusalem and going in and recovering, I'm not using the word discover recover things that they knew were there. Um, in Egypt we see Templar graffiti in many of the temples there. Uh, they went into Egypt to recover things like arcs of the covenant. >> I didn't say ark. I didn't say ark of the covenant. >> Oh boy. Yeah. >> You know why I said that? >> Because there was many of them that I've heard that [laughter] I've heard that legend as well. Yes. >> Yes. And so, um, that's some of the other stuff they recovered. Um, they went into Turkey and they, uh, recovered technology, artifacts um knowledge maps um all kinds of stuff. We have a treasure list. We know exactly what they recovered. And they brought it all over here, uh, including those remains. And I have not published this yet, but I can tell you. I will tell you right now, the tradition has the skull of Yeshua, the skull of John the Baptist, the skull of Mary. Wow. Wow. All right. So you you mentioned that the Templars went into the tomb to recover the bones of their ancestors, keep them safe. But when you're going back, you know, to, you know the zero or or, you know, around the time when Yeshua first century >> first century, >> would they have considered themselves templars or just part of a long strand of kind of um loosely arranged, you know, gnostic, telistide, part of this mystery school tradition that included the druidic traditions and a variety of other places? like would they consider themselves templars or were they just descendants >> and the Drews in Lebanon in the Middle East? >> They were all part of these gnostic traditions. The answer to the question is yes. They understood who they were. Of course they did. They they were carrying on a tradition that's that's ancient. Um they did not call themselves a Templars during the first crusade. They called themselves the poor knights of Christ. Uh but it wasn't long after that that they became the Knights Templars. So uh but yes they um they knew what they were doing. They knew exactly what they were doing. And this is not the narrative that you will read about online. Certainly not with the Roman church. But there was a reason and and another reason why they took the remains. Think about this. If you are, you know, the pope and you've got this military monastic order that is the fighting force for you and you're going to try to tell them what they want to do. By them having the mortal remains of Yeshua, that gives them leverage, doesn't it? >> It's a ton. Yeah. Absolutely. >> Yeah. So, uh, you know, when you start thinking about, uh, how the Templars became immensely wealthy and powerful, it's a lot it's a much more complicated story than we're told. Now, that is the secret that um, >> when you stop and think about it, it makes perfect sense and it was indeed true. Now, exactly how they presented that information, I'm not sure exactly what they said, but I think at one time they made it clear to the popes that were not friendly to the Templar order throughout the 200, you know, just over 200 years that they existed. Um, the church knew that they had to treat them with with kit gloves, if you will, because they had uh they had the receipts. Mhm. So if you're going to trace back this order, you know, does it go all the way back to Atlantean times? I mean, were these were these surv anti-Dovian survivors who actually maintained a a consistent order to protect the truth that they knew would be wiped out by the forces of that be? >> Aubrey, you know more than you're telling me, brother. [laughter] >> You are correct. You are correct. That's right. >> Yeah. And so, all right, so you dropped you dropped arcs of the covenant. And when we think of arcs of the covenant --- absolutely beautiful and the way the natives do it uh the way I was taught um is is my my Masonic brothers could learn a few things. It's really beautiful. >> And um you know the secrets that you talked about, they have uh a lot of secrets. One of the secrets they have is they know all about the Templars coming over here. Um there are people out there, you know, the the um you know the the historical narrative and the people that are protecting that narrative, they call me a um oh I they they call you all kinds of names, right? when they can't attack the evidence, they can't sit down and have um um you know an intelligent discussion, they can't think critically, um they attack the messenger, right? And so I get blasted all the time and I just sit there and go, "Look, when you're done calling me names, do you want to talk about the evidence? You want to [ __ ] around some more? Let me know when you're ready." Okay? And um it's really frustrating because um we've been we've been told a pack of lies and and let's just call it what it is, okay, Aubrey? The the natives experience genocide and that there's no other thing to call it, okay? And um it's really sad, but you know, one of the objectives of of the the Roman church. Uh their goal was to um to get rid of the witnesses that would tell a different alternate story that I'm telling you now. That is the truth about the history that happened here in North America and about the truth of the founding of our country. And I think the story is is way better than than what we've been taught this Columbus [ __ ] Um, it's a it's a beautiful story and I think it's a story that, you know, people are hearing it for the first time. It's like anytime you hear something that's that's that's out of your norm, it it it kind of shocking. It sort of sets you back a little bit. But I think when people look more closely at this and they examine it critically, um, they're going to like what they see. They're going to start to want to understand it more. They're going to dig deeper and they're going to realize that, um, you know, it wasn't just a bunch of white people that that founded this country. Um, the indigenous people played a role. They know the history of this thing. The reason they were they were killed is to get rid of the witnesses, right? The reason there was cultural genocide um was to get rid of this information. But I I'm I'm happy to tell people that the indigenous people, they still know the story. Um a lot of things have been lost, but a lot has been preserved and they're ready to talk and what they have to say is amazing and it's beautiful and we need to listen. So that's part of my job. I know it's part of your job >> and um you know it's important work and at the end of the day it's just about the truth and sometimes the truth isn't pretty. We all know that. But in this case I think at the at its core the truth is is beautiful and it's amazing >> and more and more beautiful than we could possibly imagine. You know >> 100% 100%. You're familiar with procession of the equinoxes, right? Of course. >> So you know why the indigenous people are ready to talk >> because now is the time and it has everything to do with procession and the whole story of Jesus and John the Baptist is connected to procession and um Aenatan and going all the way back to the Atlanteanss. It's all part of one big uh 26,000year long cycle. And what's amazing about this time period right now is many people are familiar with the fact that we are transitioning from the age of Pisces the fish to um [clears throat] Aquarius the feminine water bearer right and that's an amazing time it only happens about once every you know 2160 something years on average but what's also happening right now is it's not just the end of one of the 12 cycles or 12 um ages, if you will, but it's the end of the 26,000 year long cycle. We are living through right now one of the most profound moments in human history. And very few people understand. And it was a time that was predicted um to be of great um upheaval, difficulty, strife, uh problems in the world. And I don't care what side of the aisle you're on, things are tough right now. >> And the earth is screaming at us to take better care of her. And I use the analogy, you don't you don't defecate in your living room, do you? Why are we doing all this damage to our planet? Uh, this is our home. And I'll also say this, Aubrey, and this is going to be a little bit of a left turn, but this isn't just our home. The Earth is one of the crown jewels of the universe. >> And there are a lot of other people, other entities, if you will, that have a vested interest in the health of this planet. We are the stewards right now, but we're not doing a very good job. So, we need to do better and we can do better. We all know it, right? So, part of it is to um recognize, you know, what needs to be done, talk about the truth of what we have done, and then figure out a way we can go better into the future. because I don't I I don't know about you, Aubrey, but I have kids and I have grandkids and I can tell you're the kind of person that's had a really good experience in life and you've enjoyed this world and I want to pass on this wonderful world to my kids, my grandkids, and the ones I'll never meet. And so I feel a responsibility not just to talk about it, but to act upon it and implore other people to do the same thing because there's a lot more going on in this world and in this universe than anybody realizes. And I'll just leave it at that unless you want to delve deeper. >> Well, I I mean I always want to delve deeper, but I I just want to, you know, reify what you're saying. It's not only a responsibility. there's a responsibility with urgency like we have to we have to get it together and this increased activity that we're seeing from you know what are now called UAPs or extradimensional entities that sometimes have physical representation sometimes don't but this activity seems to be like they're warming us up like this is the foreplay before the sex or at least like a little bit of [laughter] a little bit of a warning but something feels like it's imminent. And I think more and more people are realizing that, okay, we're going to be needing to expand ourselves into a galactic consciousness beyond even uh we're not even very good at a world centric consciousness. We're not even very good at a countrycentric consciousness. Hell, we're not even good at a familycentric consciousness. I mean, look at a Thanksgiving dinner and see how many people are getting along in your own [ __ ] family, let alone extending that out to a country or to a world or to a galaxy or to a universe. I mean, we really got to get it together. And I think you got to start with the self, loving the self, loving your family, loving your loving your nation and loving your tribe, loving your loving the whole world, then loving the cosmos. And you got to move all through all of those layers, including and transcending each one until you can sing a song of pure love for all of it, you know. And I think that's and that's there's an urgency to sing that song. and and I so but what I'm curious from your perspective besides just the increased sightings and the increased kind of activity that's happening what else is pointing you to this conclusion that you know there are extradimensional or other you know other forms or species or however however it may be the lines get a little blurry you know I've been a psychonaut for 26 years so I've had plenty of extradimensional encounters so this is not this is not fiction to me this is nosis, but nonetheless, like what for you, you know, besides just the increased activity is pointing you to this conclusion? >> It's a great question. Um, and it really has two parts. Um, first and foremost, about six, seven years ago, I was contacted by somebody with the government um with um he call he goes by the name Holden, but that's not his real name. He told me that from the get-go and I figured that was the case. But he said he was with a part of the uh with a branch of the Department of Defense called NASC, the National Air and Space Investigative Center. And he basically said um in 2017 their department had been given a directive that basically was a 180 degree turn from keeping everything secret, silencing whistleblowers, you know, that whole thing that's been going on forever really. But anyway, he said now the time is um we need to go public. We need to let the world know. Uh it's it's time to share what we know. and would you be willing to help us with that endeavor? And I said, you know, first of all, I said, how do I know who you you are who you say you are? We went through a whole process of vetting. He actually came and visited and uh when he convinced me that he was who he said he was, I said uh I said okay. Um you know, I asked him why me and he said, "Well, you know, you have a a pretty good platform. Um you have some credibility and we think you could help us." So I said, "Okay, what do I need to know?" So I went through about a six months education program and I learned a lot and uh I have no reason to believe that what um the information that was shared with me is not true. I kind of said a little bit of it. I inkled it as we were talking earlier, but um yeah, they're they walk among us. They're they're here. We're we're part of them. [laughter] Part of us is them. >> And uh but there are many races out there um that um frequent this planet. As I said, this is a one of the crown jewels of the universe. And one of the things that I was told I could say was um you don't have to worry about nuclear war because that is something that could kill the planet and they're not going to let that happen. Um, we have tried multiple times, but they've shut it down every time. And um, they're pulling for us. They care for us. They want us to succeed, but they are not going to fix it for us. We have to do it ourselves. And, and I think that's fair. Um, and I think we can do it. I'm hopeful. I think I I know that we're capable. They want to see us succeed, but if we if we don't get our act together, uh they're not going to fix it for us. And if humanity doesn't survive and the Earth does survive, it'll be uh it'll be tragic. But, um I'm con I'm determined to not let that happen. So, that's one way that I found out about the whole extraterrestrial uh subject matter. The other way it came to me was in the last five years, many of the documents that we re have received in the Cremona material. They're in it. >> They are in it. And um I I I I will I will just tell you this, Aubrey. There are some things that I I'm uh in the in the material that I'm not ready to talk about yet because we're still processing it. We're still trying to understand it. >> But it deals with this subject matter uh in a way that um is going to be um I I have to be very careful um once I'm ready to talk about it. But I got to be very careful how I talk about it >> because it's going to impact um well some people may say you're that's you're full of [ __ ] I don't believe it. That's fine. People have a right to decide for themselves what they choose to believe and what they choose not to believe. That's their choice. That's called free will. But um what's that old saying? Um ignore me at your peril. Ignore this information at your peril. But but there's no question the extraterrestrials are um a part of the story. They played a key role. Um and I was really surprised. I I was not ready for it. I um you know, one of the things that I have is I'm very fortunate u my wife Janet and some other really bright people um are part of a research group that when new information comes to me and we start vetting it um and I get to a point where I think I understand it, I run it by them. And the fortunate thing for me is they're not afraid to say when they think I'm full of [ __ ] or I'm going down the wrong trail. I you you need to have that input because I'm a human being as well. I want this story to be true. Um I'm not completely naive. I I I also know h --- the feminine. They figured out what they were really all about and they were pissed and that's why they tortured and burned them and that's why they chose that date just so people understand. So the cipher phrase occurs 13 times throughout the decoding process of the message. And if you get to that cipher phrase shows up and you don't get it perfect, then you screwed it up and you got to go back and fix your work. And so they peppered it 13 times so that you could make your way through the entire message. Do you know what that cipher phrase is? I know you don't. [laughter] It was rhetorical question, but to me it represents the secret >> and I'm going to tell you what it is. The power of God is within you. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty profound. Yeah. And true. >> And true. >> Templars knew it. >> And remember I told you who they descended from. >> Yeah. All the way all the way back to Atlantis. >> Well, and and Jesus, Yeshua, >> and Mary and John, they understood it, too. And so I feel like our job, our mission is to make the world understand the power of God is within you. >> It's within all of us. >> Yeah. And there are there are some other phrases that occur within the documents that says something to the effect of the power of God radiates through all the people. So when we all get together and I use this analogy when you go to a concert >> or um some event where there's a lot of people and everybody is vibing, everybody is into the music or into whatever and everybody's into it. There's a collective consciousness that is so amazing and so fun and that's that power. >> Yeah. And there's so much more to it, of course, but I use that analogy of music because everybody can identify with that. >> Yeah. When a few or more are gathered, you know, this is there's there's little clues peppered out, you know, even in the documents that they've edited in the in that way, >> right? We're moving we're moving toward a close here and I have a just a deep personal curiosity you know because you've mentioned what you feel like was a kind of and even the Templars themselves they were kind of a heroic underground you know society and I think many of us have a feeling that there's the exact opposite there's a despotic tyrannical potentially evil you know underground deep state you know society as well. And so is there a subsurface battle between good and evil that's going on? That's of course, you know, according to the hermetic principles, as above so below, probably fractals all the way up, you know, higher into the cosmos. But what's happening on the subsurface levels between these, you know, clandestine organizations? Well, I I mean there there I think there is a battle for for for power, for control, but you know the other side of the coin, Aubrey, is I think that because we are going through such a um profound moment and we talked about that a little bit, what some of the reasons were. Um, that old phrase, as above, so below, is is really in the Bible [clears throat] on earth as it is in heaven. That's basically the same phrase, right? It's just worded a little bit differently. And I think it has to do with many things. Um, and I think part of it is this battle that you're talking about, because there are forces out there, these um, entities, extraterrestrials, whatever you want to call them, and some are, you know, wanting to do good work and some of them have a different agenda. So, they have their own battles that are going on. And, you know, we have that going on here. And you know when you talk about you know some people call it the deep state or um you know the the powers that be that are really pulling the strings and making the world work. Um I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I understand exactly all aspects of how it works. But I do know that there are powers that be um that go beyond, you know, the the people that we see on t TV every day, the presidents, the politicians, the billionaires and all of that. Um, but I do believe that we are at a critical point and I think even they know that if we don't get our [ __ ] together, it doesn't matter how much money you have. It doesn't matter how much power you have. Uh, it doesn't matter. Um, we we if if we don't figure this thing out. Um, and it starts, I think, at a at a at a personal level, at a grassroots level, and and and then it it it sort of grows from that. Um, the future doesn't look good. >> But I, you know, for me, I know what my job is. My job is to bring forth the truth. My job is to investigate. And I'm also not afraid to say I don't know. If I don't know something, I'll tell you. Um, this has been part of the problem. You know, these the this history, a lot of these artifacts and sites that I've worked on have been dismissed because academics and and and people in power just didn't have the ability to say, "I don't know." It's okay. It's okay. And it's also okay to say, "I was wrong." Because sometimes people make mistakes, right? And um but I just I I you know for me it's about bringing forth truth. Um and I just think that we're at a a critical juncture. Um procession says it's time and uh I think I think the the powers know that >> and uh >> you know the other thing is I I just don't understand how much money does a person need? How much power does a person need? We need more empathy in the world. We just I'm just not seeing any empathy out there. And you know, women have more empathy than most guys. I think maybe we could learn something from them instead of trying to control them. Um, listen listen more >> as we I mean it it definitely does feel like we're entering you know what in the Nordic cultures they would call Ragnarok this kind of final this final battle this kind of final coming to where those those of us who see you know see themsel in every in every person in every rock and every tree and every animal and every star and every you know we just understand that versus this other force that tries to declare separation and supremacy and those two ideologies you know are coming to a coming to a head and you know I don't see a lot of great signs that we're doing we're we're doing a great job so far but nonetheless what does the average ordinary individual you know like what can what can a listener who's listening to this do who wants to contribute, you know, to to the good. And I said good with a capital G, you know, and and the goddess, you know, add a couple more letters and, you know, the goodest of of the world. And, you know, what what is what is, you know, what do people do? What can we do? >> Well, I I you know, that's that's a really good question and and the answer to me is really quite simple. Um, think about other people just for a moment. And sometimes it starts with just opening a door for a person, right? Um or you know giving someone the right away when you're uh driving your car. And I I you know I it's interesting that's that's a whole psychology in itself. And I catch myself sometimes you know getting aggressive and I want to get here and then I just go you know what doesn't matter if I get there five minutes later or 10 minutes later you know the world's going to keep spinning. my life is going to keep going. I don't have to be in such a hurry. And and sometimes it's just a little simple thing like that like hey go ahead you know just stop and let someone merge and you know open a door for somebody or you know it's just simple thing and it becomes contagious. It's infectious and I I and and the these are easy things that people can do and I just I think that's where it starts. I really >> viral viral virtue. >> Yeah. viral virtue. Well, this has been an absolutely fascinating conversation and you know I know that you know people who are doing the research they'll go and Google and it'll say oh the Cremonia documents are a fraud and the Kensington runstone is a fraud and all of this and and they've been saying that about everything in ancient history and all the receipts more receipts come in and and so just encouraging people who are listening to just keep your skepticism. I think that's important, you know, >> think critically. Think critically, >> but uh but also open your mind, you know, open your mind >> to the to the new possibilities of who we are, where we are, and and what is there to do? I think the three most important questions in this in this life. Who who are you? Where are you? And what is there to do? Because we do have an a there's something that we should do. And and are you doing that thing? And if you are doing that thing then you know as Crazy Horse and the Lakota warriors would say I'm ready for whatever's next like okay let's go let's let's die with full heart and full love full of laughter >> and uh and let's let's make this you know if this is our last our last gasp let's make it uh let's make it the most beautiful song and the most beautiful laugh and the most beautiful orgasm that we possibly can. >> I'm with you brother. Right on. [laughter] Yeah, indeed. Well, it's been beautiful to make this connection. I'll come see you in Minnesota. I'll bring my hoop shoes and uh we'll get in some games and and have some fun. Um >> Okay. Well, you got I I want to see what you got. I I may be older, but I still got a few moves left. [laughter] >> I got I got some moves left, too. Um there's a ton of places people can find your work. You got a bunch of books. Anywhere in particular you want to point people's attention to? Yeah, I would. Well, first of all, Aubrey, I want to make sure that I I I want to thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. This has been amazing and you came really close, but I was good. I didn't reveal the the green jar, but I will. And when that time comes, we'll do this again, maybe, but >> let's do it. I'll come up to Minnesota. We'll do it in person. >> I'd love to have you, and I'm I'm dead serious. Um I I do have to ask you a quick question. Does the name Ricky Medlock ring a bell? >> Does not. Okay. He's in a band called Leonard Skinnard. >> Oh, yeah. >> And he's Lakota. And And he's uh when he gets done playing Freeird, he puts his arms that says Lakota Warrior, just like this. And uh I met him because somebody had pitched he and I doing a show together >> uh looking for lost Templar treasure on uh indigenous reservations. But anyway, it never happened. But I just wondered if you knew him. But if people are interested in reading more about this stuff, I've written a lot. Uh, and I have a brand new book, if I can shamelessly plug it right here, about the Sinclair Williams journals, but go to my website. Actually, this book isn't even available on Amazon yet, not till February 10th, but at my website, which is scottfwalter.com. One word, scott falter. Um, every book that's bought off there, I sign and personalize and I ship it myself. Um, so that's that's a place where you can go. You can read a little bit about my research on the Kensington fake runstone. My god. Um, it's not fake. It's the most important historical artifact found on this continent, arguably. Uh, in any case, people can read the evidence and decide for themselves. But, um, I also have a blog called scottwalteransers.blog. blogspot.com and anybody that posts there, I will hit you back. I promise. And if you want to find me, I'm out there. I'm still working. I still run my lab. People call me all the time and send me emails and I'll answer you. And um yeah, I'm just going to keep going. I've been doing this for 25 years. It's been the most important meaningful experience I've ever had and I'm going to do it till I drop. >> All right. Well, consider me another brother and goddess, brother and God. And uh All right. And I'm I'm with you to the end. So, >> let's go. >> Let's go, baby. Thank Thank you again, Aubrey. I really appreciate you having me on. >> Thanks for tuning in to this video. Make sure you hit subscribe. Follow me at Aubrey Marcus. 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