View From the Other Side — Anita Moorjani's Near-Death Experience

[Music] welcome to this session of the Beyond the Veil Summit where we explore the nature of the veil between the worlds I'm Lisa Banes your host and my guest for this session is Anita morjani our topic today is a view from the other side Anita morjani is an international speaker and author of the bestselling dying to be me what if this is heav and sensitive is the new strong Anita has been at the Apex of spiritual discussion since her astounding 2006 near-death experience Anita thank you so much for joining us it's such a pleasure to be with you today welcome thank you I'm so happy to be back and and chatting with you again yes I I so love your story I mean obviously there was a lot of scary tragic things involved but it's an amazing one uh and I don't want to assume that everyone who's watching this knows the story even though it is one of the more well-known nde so if you don't mind would you give us uh give the folks who don't know an idea of what you experienced yes of course so I had lymphoma and in 2006 I was at end stage so lymphoma is a form of lymphatic cancer and so I had these tumors um all over my lymphatic system like wherever the um lymph glands were I had tumors the size of golf balls from the base of my skull all around my neck under my arms in my chest all the way down to my abdomen and um and it had the cancer had spread and metastasized and I had fluid in my lungs and my body stopped absorbing nutrition I weighed about 85 pounds um and because my body wasn't absorbing nutrition uh I my muscles had completely deteriorated so I looked like a skeleton but I had no strength in my legs to walk in fact even my neck couldn't hold up my head my head was hanging down like this all the time and I was in a tremendous amount of pain and discomfort and um I I would be lying down all the time but because my lungs were filled with fluid when I would lay flat I would choke on my own fluid and I had these open skin lesions and then on February the 2nd 2006 I fell into a coma because my organs had started to shut down one by one and the doctors then told my family that um that I was dying and I wasn't coming back this was the end but unbeknownst to everyone around me um I had left my body even though U my physical body was was in the coma my spirit or my soul if you will had already left my body and I was aware of everything that was happening around my physical body and Beyond and I felt incredible I felt light I felt free and all the pain was gone and all the fear was gone I had been in so much fear and pain and discomfort and it was all gone but the incredible thing is Not only was I aware of what was happening in the hospital room where my body was laying I was also aware of um Spiritual Beings that were surrounding me as if to greet me and as if they were there to help me cross over and I recognized some of them one of them was my deceased father another one was my deceased best friend who had died of cancer two years prior but there were a lot of um Souls there that who I didn't recognize that maybe were from other lifetimes and not this one I had just come out of or maybe they had never even incarnated they could have been my guides my angels um but it was like there was a whole crowd to greet me and welcome me and help me but what stood out most was how I felt completely just loved like enveloped or enveloped sorry in this ocean of Love um I just felt so um like it was unconditional love and I don't remember ever feeling that way before in physical life because in physical life it always felt like I had to work really hard at being worthy and deserving of being loved but here it felt I was loved just because I existed there was no reason not to be loved and and it felt like I was being welcomed back home I was home and I was being welcomed back home after being on an arduous journey and it was almost like I was being congratulated for having endured the life that I had um it was incredible it was like really just being revered and welcomed and I'd never felt like that in physical life and I was in the coma for about 30 to 36 hours and a A lot happened while I was there and um I I'm going to unravel it as we move forward in our conversation uh through your questions but but uh basically I reached a point where I was given a choice as to whether I wanted to come back or not and no part of me wanted to come back um because my physical body was dying and I had been suffering and my family had been suffering looking after me so no part of me wanted to come back but um I felt my father my dad was telling me that it's not my time and now that I know the truth basically of how powerful I am and and how loved I am I needed to go back and live my life fearlessly now this state was like a state of clarity and because of the clarity I I started to understand why I had got cancer why this had happened uh and I started to realize how powerful my spirit TR truly is and so with that I also understood that if I made the decision to come back into my physical body that my body would heal very very quickly and I could see while I was there the trajectory of my healing and I started to see as soon as my dad said it's not your time and you need to go back and he said you have some gifts waiting for you on the other side I started to see my life unravel if I chose to go back I wasn't being forced but I was being encouraged to go back and it almost felt like I would have wasted the lessons of the first half of my life if I didn't go back and so I made the decision to come back into my body and sure enough my physical body healed very quickly in five days my tumor shrunk by about 60% in three weeks they could find no trace of cancer in my body um I was just building up strength in my physical body so that I could start walking again and functioning again in five weeks they let me go home from theal hospital to live my life cancer-free and that was on March 9th 2006 wow thank you so much I know you've told the story so many times thank you for sharing it with us again I I've always been curious uh ever since I first heard the story is the actual curing of of the cancer do you have I know this baffled your doctors and this is sort of what sort of propelled you into being so well known because it was such a I guess miraculous uh for lack of a better word uh recovery do you have any concept of what actually happened I do I do and so this is a a really interesting dichotomy that I have faced ever since I came back I believed after I came back I honestly believed that I had discovered the TR truth about what disease in our physical body really is particularly cancer for example because that's what I went through and um I realized things about how to heal it and so on and I was determined to shout it from the rooftops not realizing the huge push back I would get so the dichotomy here is that you have these people in the medical Comm community that don't know what to write in my medical reports and when I tell them what it is that I learn on the other side they push back and then they say no that's your mind that's the drugs that's you know so so you you so I stopped sharing because it's it's um we live in a world where there's so much divisiveness that you have a pocket of people who really are hungry for this information and you have another pocket of people who are so invested in the pharmaceutical drug medical Paradigm that they will do anything to push back against anything that goes against it because and I didn't understand all this in the beginning because I thought oh I think I have the cure for cancer which was naive of me to think that people would be receptive to this because I was like I bet everybody wants to hear it and I wanted to shout it from the rooftops and I realize no the the big the the the loudest voices Among Us don't want to hear it it's the other voices that do the other the the pockets of people but everything I learned on the other side goes against everything that we have been taught here by mainstream anything by mainstream Medicine by mainstream media by mainstream uh educ ation by mainstream religions everything I learned on the other side is the opposite of what we really need to know in order to thrive and Sur not only survive but to thrive and be joyful and happy and it really goes against the grain of mainstream anything so I have to be very careful and tread carefully how I share my messages because in the public Arena it can get shut down but I know that audiences like Shift Network audiences are totally open they're a very spiritually mature audience and and they and they're hungry for messages like this and so basically sorry back to your question what do I think actually happened so one of the things I realized is that most of our diseases and I really mean most of them are not physical diseases that seek or are warrant Medical Care cures nearly every disease except for something that is caused by a physical impact or repetitive stress syndrome except for physical things like that but every other disease kind of like heart disease cancers and so on always have an emotional spiritual or even soul level component to it and we have completely neglected looking at those components that's number one number two is we have to look at our conditioning our um our soul our spirit or who we are at our core is much more powerful than we have ever been led to believe and I mean much more powerful like we have come here for a purpose we've come here to shine our lights huge and to be who we are but we have been qualed by whether it's by education by mainstream media by religions and so on we been quelch and it's this repression and this disallowing of our energy to shine through and express itself that causes sometimes for disease to manifest in our body um and the other thing is a lot of our social conditioning our mainstream media conditioning educational conditioning makes us believe that we are victims to our circumstances we're victims to our illnesses oh poor you you got cancer you're a victim to cancer you have to now fight it you're not a victim to it your body is not against you cells sometimes um the the unhealthy cells May replicate faster because you are not honoring who you are you are stressing yourself out you are not taking care of yourself you are repressing yourself you are not following your Soul's path you don't love yourself you loathe yourself there's so many reasons but all these reasons add up and they dim your light and they can cause your body to act out so again there's so many reasons but the thing I want to say is we are looking in the wrong places for the Cure that's the main Crux of the message I have wow thank you so much for that and of course now a thousand questions are springing to mind uh the the first one is that I I know that people who are watching this uh uh myself included uh when you're when you're working on bringing yourself into you know your your best health your highest health Etc it's really easy to blame yourself for you know I caused this illness or you know you get angry at your body for betraying you Etc there's all this stuff in our heads uh and I'm sure that you experienced this yourself or you would not have ended up where you did how do we even begin to tap into that that core self that healing self inside without having to have an nde so the reason I share my story is because I don't want other people to go through what I went through you don't have to have an nde I don't recommend it um so so first of all you need to know it's not your fault no matter where your body is at right now no no matter where the first step is to learn to accept and love who you are where you are right now and every moment of the way you were doing the best you can with what you know so unfortunately again because we live in a world of Duality one side there's one side where we think our illness is the fault of everything else you know in other words we think we're a victim of our illness when you believe that you're a victim of your illness and you didn't you have nothing to do it with it it just happened to you um and so you have to go out there and fight it like a battle what happens is you lose control of your body and and the health of your body you're giving the control to an outside force on the other hand you can go too far in believing that you caused it that you start blaming yourself and beating yourself up and judging yourself so I want people to be aware of the two sides of this coin so one side being oh I'm a helpless victim this happened to me no there's a lot you can do there's a lot you're responsible for and the other side is oh it's my fault and I hate myself and look at me no it's not your fault you know you have to love yourself where you are so what I tell people the way the best way I can think of to look at it is imagine if you have a child or a pet who is going through an illness right now number one do you blame the child or the pet no you don't blame them but number two do you go out of your way to find out how you can help them and alleviate the situation and reverse it yes you do and why do you do that because you love that child or that pet we have to love ourselves as if we are our own child or own pet look at how much you love your pet dog your pet cat or your child love yourself that much you have to love yourself that much because the more you love yourself the more you will be willing to do for yourself to heal yourself and take care of yourself and when you love yourself and you're healing from the perspective of love like you would your child or your pet you're not blaming that person so you're not blaming yourself so always think of it that way I have to love myself as though I am taking care of myself as though I am my own child or pet yeah okay thank you for that that that makes tremendous sense I appreciate that now I want to go back to our topic today is a view from the other side and so I wanted to ask what did it look like for you on the other side so to speak and do you think it's different for everyone depending on what they expect I think that to an extent it is different at the point of crossing over I think that the people who greet for example if you are a staunch believer uh of whether it's Krishna or Buddha or Jesus whoever it is if you're a staunch believer and that's who you're praying to all the time and you know that you're going to see them on the other side that is who who will greet you one of the things that I learned on the other side is that um we are greeted by who we most expect to see um I what I learned also is that it's almost like you see through everything that we have been taught over here so um it's like suddenly everything makes sense and I understood that religion is a he thing and not a there thing religion is created here by humans to try and understand the other side but in many ways religion has also divided us instead of uniting us whereas when you're on the other side you realize there's no division we're all part of one Consciousness and if we need it to be Jesus it will be Jesus if we need it to be Krishna it will be Krishna if we need it to be our dad or our mom or whoever it will be them too so that's what I found was really interesting when I was there and I know now that anybody who says that this is the only one true path and you have to convert and you have to let go of all false gods and so on um it's that's a human perspective of something that's very hard to understand about what it actually is like when we leave our bodies well I want to ask then uh you were saying that we we will see whomever we expect whether it's Jesus or Buddha or or our family members Etc so I'm wondering then in in your opinion are we actually seeing that person is this actually the essence of Jesus is this the soul of Jesus is this the soul of my grandmother or is it sort of a just an energetic buildup representation of their isness does the question make sense yes it does make sense so the essence of each of these um beings genu Ely so this is how I perceive it so I want to be clear because I never want to make other people wrong who have different perspectives and sometimes it takes putting together different perspectives to to understand things so I genuinely believe that the essence of every single soul you know all of us who have yet to cross over every single soul their Essence there's an imprint of it there and all of us are there but because we are so we are not physical bodies there is no um there's no boundary our physical bodies act as a boundary but in actuality our souls don't have a boundary your soul and my soul overlaps they're connected by the same life force energy or the same Essence um and so does Jesus and Buddha and Shiva and all of them and and Allah they're all connected but their Essence their soul in actually does exist the soul that that expressed itself during Jesus's Lifetime and probably had many other lifetimes that Soul does exist and maybe I don't know I'm just throwing it out there how do we know that Jesus and Buddha and Krishna are not the same Soul because they did live in different time U time and spaces they did live in different times so um so maybe when that Soul comes to you it will put on the Persona of the one you identified with but you are still connecting with that soul the soul that you require like I resonate with quanin for example but there's a big part of me that believes that Quan Yin and mother Mary um and I think um you know Teresa of Avala they could all be the same Soul they kind of have the same energy to me so you know in different incarnations so there's that element as well that makes a lot of sense thank you so then let's go a step further what are your thoughts on God the Big G so I don't believe that God is a single being uh it's not like some being in the sky who we prayed to and rever to and who bestow who bestows good and bad onto US I see God as more the connectiveness of all of us so it is so I use the analogy of a mirror ball um so if if you're if you're old enough to remember back in the day but I think they're back in uh in fashion now is we used to have these mirror balls in the discos um and so you have this ball which has all these Mosaic tiles of mirrors hanging off the ceiling in a in a disco and these mirror tiles are refracting light onto the walls um around you onto the walls of the room around you so now imagine if this ball this the whole ball in its completeness in its entire entirety this whole thing is what I would call God and each of these tiles these mirrored tiles is one Soul so each soul is connected to God it's an it's a facet each Soul each of us your soul my soul each of our souls is a facet of God and a soul can incarnate or not incarnate it's still a facet of God but when light is shown on this mirror ball it refracts it and then you see on the wall you see specks of light that is US incarnate as a physical being and each of these specs of light are separate when you look at the dots the specs on the wall they're all separate so each of us see each other as separate from each other we're being refracted as separate lights but we are all refracted from a soul we are an expression of a soul and the soul is a facet of God all right perfect thank you for that illustration very uh very evocative thank you now I want to go back this has been sort of tickling my head since since you mentioned uh earlier where talking about this uh these uh these realizations these knowings is you have to sort of keep it contained and know your audience uh you mentioned that you know the mainstream various aspects of the mainstream are all sort of dead set against uh these these uh truths you know hesitate to use that word because they don't think of it as truth but no you feel that it is so if so much of the world and I agree with you on that is dead set against these these knowings coming forward uh bubbling up I realized that there's there's uh profits there's Financial uh interests Etc hope we get this way I I know what we didn't plan this question so if you don't have an answer for it I understand but just in your experience and your thoughts what's up with what we're doing here on this side of the veil in such stark contrast to what the reality the greater reality is that's a great question so I would have like it's a I have several answers or reasons for it um one of the things I've noticed is for example when I died when I was on the other side I realized that the values that I took with me or that I the things that I valued from this life while I was there were incredibly different from what is valued when we're here so somehow we've gone wrong somewhere where we have adopted values that do not work for us as a culture as a race as a as Humanity these values don't work for us and I think also what's happened is we never shifted from the caveman era of fight or flight and so because of that we seem to be in a world where we're not hunting for animals when we don't need to watch our back for the bear that's about to pounce on us we are still living in pathological fear 247 and the reason we're living in pathological fear a major part is because our mainstream media is feeding us fear 247 that's the big part and a lot of what we're learning every day at school it's about we're learning scarcity all the time that you have to you you really have to work hard to the tests to get into good schools to get into the good um school system and into the good colleges because there's not enough places to go around scarcity there's not enough jobs for everyone there's not enough money for everyone in the Health Care System it's all about focusing on illness because Wellness is scarce and so we focus on illness eradicating illness all of this is fear-based all of it is a fear-based paradigm so we live 247 in fear and and the other thing is we tend to Value money over anything else so every single system you look at whether it's um a system a mainstream media that's based to inform us whether it's an education system that's made to educate us whether it's a Health Care System that's made to keep us healthy all of these systems are failing because they've put money profits ahead of the actual job that they are being commissioned to do you know it Mak making money is more important than keeping people healthy making money is more important than keeping people informed of the truth making money is more important than giving people a real education and so on so we put money over and above everything else um when I died I realized that actually my greatest assets were two things time the time you have here that's limited you don't get it back once it's passed and the second thing is my well-being my physical health and well-being without these two things you don't exist here and so when I came back I realized wow everybody here every single system the basis of it the driving force is the money how much does it cost how much will the profits be is it a good return on investment but what about is the time you're putting in worth it is it stressing me out that I'm losing my health those are not even factored in so today the way I live my life is my two most important factors are time and health and then the next most important thing is relationships and then finally it's the money but the reason for the money is to be able to do those first three things yeah yeah that makes so much sense now again so many questions in my mind I'm trying to figure out what would come up uh first we we're talking about how the dichotomy between the two sides and that this this Veil between the worlds that we're talking about here in this Summit it almost feels like it's two sides of a coin but in your view what actually is the veil what is it that separates us from you the physical world from the nonphysical very little very very little in fact if you if if uh if people are open to it there is no Veil there is no Veil um it is a human created Veil because I communicate with the other side all the time I wouldn't be living here if I would be dead if I lived my life the way I was taught to live here in the physical world that's why I died the first time the only way I can be alive today and be here today is because I have to live life following the rules that I learned on the other side and not the rules I learned here and if people are open to it they can also do the same but it takes a huge opening of heart and mind a huge opening of really being willing to see through everything that we have been conditioned to believe here well then let's talk about uh the idea of heaven and hell because throughout our conversation it almost feels like this is the hell when you pass over you're in this heavenly location but I don't know what are what are your thoughts on Hell specifically so there is no hell on the other side and as much as people like to uh Challenge and argue with me on that um uh I have to say there isn't and people are going to have to deal with it when they cross over um and uh you know it's it's more a realization and everybody is on a different path on a different trajectory and so I've had people attack me and say you know I don't want to be on the same side as Hitler and things like that you don't have to cross paths with the soul of Hitler it's so vast on the other side everybody is on the on the same trajectory but to think that there is a place called hell where you will fry in in fire for all of eternity is a very narrow way of thinking that doesn't exist we are all on our own trajectory of evolution and whoever it is that crosses over even if they were the worst of criminals they do get clarity on the other side they do get opportunities to help themselves to evolve to heal they do get opportunities to understand why they chose that path in this physical lifetime but that's their path for them to walk and to continue to evolve you don't have to be the one who says that that I don't believe you because they need to go to you know so basically stop bringing that onto yourself and just focus on your path and so this is the thing that's what I have to say about hell there is no place that is Hell the other thing I want to say is you know I've had people say but I've had relatives who I'm I wish they would you know I would really wish the worst for them because they abused me and you have no idea how badly and it's traumatized me and it was and it was so abusive and violent and all so here's the other thing that actually happens is when we cross over because of the state of clarity usually the people who hurt you the most and abused you the most are the ones who are most determined to help you on the when they cross over to the other side because for them it's part of their healing it's part of their evolution they want nothing more than to be there to support you and help you so they can make up to you for what how they hurt you when they were here in the physical interesting thank you which of course leads to another question uh uh I think it's a it's a fairly common uh theme that when when people cross over that they or that we're here on Earth to learn lessons this is sort of like a school uh we're learning physical lessons that you can only experience when your physical uh so that's why we come here but then when we cross over it seems like there's this uh there's this realm between our Physical Realm and the great beyond that none of us really have ever seen because or well that we don't remember because we're physical but in that in between world where we do our pre-life planning and uh and where we're doing what you were just saying where we're learning we're continuing to learn What In your experience is that between between physical and the great great beyond this this sort of between World area I wish I had better words but as you know some of it just can't be described yes just what are your thoughts on this I'll just leave it at that okay so first of all that is the area that we all have access to um and some of the Beyond because our the our um our deceased loved ones and our gu are constantly trying to communicate with us and they are in this area so this area I would say uh let me let me find my words because again as we both know words are so hard when we're talking about this topic language has not been created for this topic um so we when we are living fully immersed in this physical world where we are in a job we hate and working and and we have rent to pay and so we have to work for the money work hard for the money and so on we have fully engaged in this world we have very little contact with this in between world so even when our loved ones try to communicate with us send us signals bat signals we don't see it we don't hear it and this is why a lot of people say why aren't I getting the messages and all that but when we ourselves go on a journey of self-discovery and we connect with nature and we um and we meditate and we do things that allow us and we allow space in our lives and in our minds and we start to love ourselves and take care of ourselves we start to connect more we get closer and closer to what I call also call this in between stage but the deeper we go into this between stage which is what I think you want to know more about that is the state where before you came into this life your soul kind of um previewed this world and thought okay this is my intention when I go in here when I go when I take form of life my intention is to change the world in this way or my intention is to just bring up some amazing children who will go on to change the world or whatever our intention is we come in with these intentions and we make those decisions and we kind of find um from that space that is the space where we are really close to this physical world and the energies of it and making decisions of what this world needs and finding Soul families and all of that before actually giving birth into a physical body and that's also where we go to kind kind of realize oh did I actually attain what I came here to do or did I get lost or did I fall into the fear we come here not intending to buy into all that fear that we are being fed we come here trying to be part of the solution because everybody who buys in the fear becomes part of the fear and it expands the fear I know that my mission here is to expand the love and as we expand the love the less room for fear but if I chose to come here to fight the fear all I'll be doing is I'll be causing the fear-based people to fight back because it creates more fear in them because they're trying to hold on to something they're trying to hold on to those old paradigms the old medical Paradigm or education or whatever it is so the more I fight against it the tighter they'll hold it and the more they'll fight back but if I just let them be who they are but I just expand love and the more I expand it and the more that people see oh I have a choice I don't have to buy into the fear I can buy into the love then we can change the world beautifully said thank you for that and again another question is popping in mind we're talking about the physical the between world and the great beyond as if these are physical constructs because you know we live in this 3D World and that's how we perceive things but and again I know there's no words for this so let's do our best in your uh in your view and your experience where is the other side where is this between world because we sort of picture it as maybe above the Earth and you know it that heaven is up there and then outer space is past that so again knowing the limitations of languages do you have any way of expressing where the between world is okay so um this this is a little more challenging only because our brain our minds conceives time as linear and space as well as you know being boundaried and because of that but when we really go into limitlessness we are really talking about no time H in other words a future version of you could decide to come and visit you here um you know we're talking about wormholes we're talking about even for example I actually believe that a lot of times when we see craft you know where we call it alien craft we call it UAP and and in our narrow beliefs we think oh they've just come from another planet and they're more evolved than we are yes it's highly probable that's what it is but it is also so equally probable that in the future we are so evolved and so developed and our technology is so developed that we can visit our past selves so those crafts that we can't understand the technology that comes here that we can't understand are they could very well be from our evolved future selves and I think that in the future we will be able to see that we don't need physical crafts we don't need to build Rockets to go to the Moon because we can just literally um shift ourselves there for want of a better word we can literally visualize ourselves tet transport ourselves there I honestly don't think that a lot of The Craft that have visited us sometimes I even believe they bring the craft here for our benefit I don't think they need it I think they're able to tet transport here um because the way it was so Limitless on the other side but I had to bring back only what serves me to live out the rest of my life and when my dad told me actually he when before I came back he said go back and live your life fearlessly I wasn't sure exactly what he meant but now I really understand because this life is a very very um fear-based in that it is Fe here is the Bedrock of of what drives this entire culture this human race and to live and to create a life that is the opposite that doesn't buy into that is challenging it's very challenging um and people see you as being rebellious or and things and and a lot of things people see me as being a lot of things that I'm actually not I'm actually someone who's non-confrontational I'm actually someone who wants to bring peace and love and joy to the planet but it just goes against the grain of so much of what is out there um so it's it's an interesting thing so I understand now more than ever what he means by living fearlessly because our world continues to get more and more divisive and I just have to hang in there because I feel very optimistic that the love will come through yeah the true meaning of be the ch change that's that's that's us being the change so I wanted to ask you since you mentioned time we've mentioned it a couple times here I know from hosting uh Shift Network things for seven years now one of the most frequently asked questions is how does reincarnation work if time here is what it is and time doesn't exist over there how can somebody who uh is here now be incarnated at another time or if somebody has passed how long before they can reincarnate uh yada yada yada let's talk about time and reincarnation yes so again words are limiting but I'm going to do my best that when we're on that side you can see or experience or gain information from all your lives simultaneously and they are not necessarily sequential we need to process them as sequential when we come here our brain and I do believe in past life regression because it allows you to get information from other lifetimes that this Soul has lived that will help you in this physical life so if I again I like to use analogies because that's the only way to explain it like I did with the mirror ball I'm going to use the analogy of an apartment building and let's say you have an apartment building with seven stories and so let's just say there's only one apartment per floor so you've got these seven apartments one on top of the other when you go up and down in the elevator or go up and down the stairs you can only be um in one on one floor at a time or in between floors like let's say in between lives and so each floor represents one life but you can only be so your Consciousness your awareness can only be in one life at a time but when you die you are outside of the physical so the apartment building is the physical now imagine if you are outside the building and you're out on the street looking at the building and that's where you can see oh there's seven stories but when you're inside one of the floors you may not even necessarily know what the outside of the building looks like you may not even necessarily know how many stories there are you don't know what the other apartments look like you physically have to be in the other apartments so you physically have to be in those other lifetimes to know them but the whole building is the soul so my soul in order to be a complete Soul needs to live out all these lifetimes but it's but it is but when I step out of each one of these lifetimes and I'm seeing the whole soul I am the whole soul I'm aware of all the lifetimes and I'm aware that oh I need need to go back I'm aware of lifetimes I have yet to live that's kind of the best I can do with explaining it and and again I want to reiterate that even though time is not linear on the other side and all lives exist simultaneously it does not negate the benefit of things like past life regression because you are still accessing other lives that have information that's pertinent to you here the other thing I uh you know because language is so limited a term that I use a lot is infinite net and I always say the infinite net is far more powerful than the internet because when I use the mirror ball analogy every single mirror tile on the ball is connected to each other that means every soul Every Soul that has ever existed that will ever exist is because souls are Eternal it's physical bodies that are that have ever existed or will ever exist but every soul is connected um and they're all connected on this uh together and the whole thing together is what I call God or Consciousness so when you have a a need a desire and and you need help and you need to call for help if you are actually genuine calling or asking for guidance for support and you are calling on the infinite what I call the infinite n your soul has access to every other Soul Your Soul has access to Infinity to infinite Consciousness and so you have access to the infinite net for your answers to come through I love your analogies they they're perfect we are so close to out of time I would love to talk to you for days but I won't bring up your new book uh sensitive is the new strong which says that sensitivity is a strength and not a weakness I love that would you elaborate I know we've just got a minute or two left but I'd love to hear what you can share okay I'm gonna try and shorten it because uh it's it's quite an explanation so in our Paradigm uh we we tend to think of sensitivity as a weakness we tend to think of empaths as weak kindness as weakness we tend to Revere things like ruthlessness aggression um competitiveness and we we vote people like that into Power um and that's why we have the world we have but if we if we shifted if we changed the parameters or the metrics of what it means to be strong and we decided that in fact the world needs empathy we need we need sensitivity we need compassion we need love we need com kindness all these are missing and we decided that that's what it means to be strong those are the traits that are needed and we started valuing those traits and we started teaching our children that those are the traits of strength we would actually see a very different world and real quick I wanted to say one more thing to this we think that sensitive people are weak but while sensitive people appear to be weak in the physical because they're very easily affected by physical things by um things like stress and and and just physical our physical surroundings and we're affected by people's emotions sensitive people are actually have the strongest intuition and connection to their soul and to the other side the more sensitive you are the more of an empath the more empathy and compassion you are and the more of an empath you have the easier it is for you to connect be on the veil wow sensitive is the new strong I'm going to be reading that one thank you so much Anita and I'm sorry to have compacted it but I think you you elaborated it beautifully um I want to make sure that I mention your website before we go it's Anita morgan.com what will people find if they visit you there uh they will find actually when my story is there and they will find links to all my social media I have a lot of videos on YouTube I believe more than 300 videos now I would love for people to follow me on YouTube Instagram Facebook um and of course I have all my books available you know on Amazon and yada yada all right thank you again Anita this has been such a fascinating conversation as I said I could talk to you for days so I do appreciate your time thank you for being with us thank you Lisa that was that was great I loved your questions thank you for your answers I want to remind everyone that I've been talking with Anita morani and I want to thank you for joining us I hope you enjoyed this conversation in the Beyond the Veil Summit