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Gregg Braden and Danny Jones: Alien Abductions and the Moon's Anomalies

By Gregg Braden · Gregg Braden Official

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On Danny Jones's podcast, Gregg Braden discusses the unusual orbital and geological evidence around the Moon, indigenous traditions of a pre-Moon era, and the late Harvard psychiatrist John Mack's serious research into abduction phenomena. He moves from there to the megalithic reconstruction question.

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they were interviewing the head of NASA and they were asking him about why China is sending Rovers out to the dark side of the moon he was like ah he was like let them do it we don't care what's we don't care what's back there well the Moon the Moon itself is an enigma shouldn't be shouldn't be where it is the orbit of the moon is unlike any other orbit and there is geologic evidence to suggest there was a time where we had oceans and no moon and the tides were huge I we're talking like 400t waves that were coming in and just decimating land and there are stories and there are uh indigenous traditions and biblical passages that talk about when there was no moon and and how things changed when the moon occurred now that's not science there's stories there was a researcher Harvard trained he was the head of Psychiatry at Harvard University 1990s and I had the honor and the privilege of knowing and touring with him on the conference circuit his name was John Mack oh yeah familiar with John okay so I knew John we two her together before he was mysteriously killed uh and there's a lot of uncertainty about precisely how that Happ the wrong way crossing the street in London right he wasn't crossing the street he was on the sidewalk and the car left the street he was on the sidewalk after the conference he was had dinner with friends at night he was walking home at night the car left the street camp on the sidewalk struck him down and returned to the street and um he was conscious when they found him and he died not not long after that he was the first scientist that gave credibility to the phenomenon of what we today call alien abduction yes now this is taken on a whole new meaning because of what's happening in Congress uh the disclosure hearings are having about right do we have technology have we met these beings do we have in our possession all that so this is in the '90s before you know all was under wraps right and what John Mack did was he said look prior to that time the scientific and the medical community said these are just crazy people schizophrenic yes John ma said look this is happening on every continent in every culture and it's been happening for hundreds of years let's look into this scientifically if if it is mental illness will prove it and why are all these why are all these testimonies of these folks why are they also similar well this is that's exactly where I'm going so one of the things he found across all the cultures and and the countries the language and everything there were common themes not 100% but there were there were these overlapping common themes one of the themes plays in to exactly and supports what we're talking about here that's why I'm sharing it one of the things people would ask as an abductee I probably would as well is why me you know why why have you you chosen me and and what is it you know that you want me to know or what do I need to know and one of the common themes was that these beings that did the abducting the abductors were actually uh life from other worlds Advanced forms of life and they are here they said because we're at a point in our Evolution that they were in their evolution a long time ago where they had to choose between biology and Technology they chose technology and they're sorry that they did that because they lost so much of their biology they lost the ability for emotion they lost the ability to conceive uh internally sexually it's all asexual and they want that back and they're warning us not to make the same choice so that's one category another one is really really fascinating to me was not John Mack but there was a a study that was done not everyone fit into the John Mack category there were a large number of [Music] people that revealed that the abductors are not aliens from another world but they're us that makes the most sense to me from another time they're us from our own future these are humans coming back because we gave our humanist AWA technology they're the product of the loss of their humanness they're warning us not to do it and they're also want it back and they're thinking that would explain the extraction of eggs and sperm exactly eggs sperm and and DNA they're thinking they they can at least uh merge some of this back into their existence whether you believe either of them or not that some people are more drawn to one or the other but they're both saying the same thing there's something about us that's worth preserving there's something about us and and that this isn't going to go on for decades we're at this like I mean this is within the next year 2 years 3 years certainly 5 years between now and 2030 if we give our humanness away we can never go back and they are inviting us or warning us not to do that from two very very different perspectives isn't that interesting another interesting thing about the testimony from all the people that John Mack talked to is that a vast majority of them said that when they asked these beings during these experiences they had um whether you want to believe that they were real experiences or whether they happened all inside their head either way a vast majority of these folks said when they asked these beings who they were where they were from a lot of them said they were from the future yeah it didn't say they were from other planets or whatever and uh like if you look at all the living species on Earth they were Earth from humans from Earth exactly where did you come from well that makes we didn't come from anywhere we came from here from Earth right exactly and if you want to you know if you want to compare extraterrestrials from another galaxy or from another Goldilocks planet in another another solar system to us like first of all what would be their incentive to try to warn us and try to save us right like why why would we want to travel across the Galaxy just to warn this other civilization not to destroy themselves right it would make sense if they were us from the future they would have an incentive to do that another thing anthrop anthrop anthropologically anthropologically easy for you to say is that um this a team yeah exactly there's like I think there's over 2 million catalog species on of of an of um of animals on Earth 20 of those are hominids and one of those 20 happens to be upright walking hominids that can control their and manipulate their environment right and we happen to also be the the one of the 20 out of the 2 million that can develop technology that can leave the Earth right and and look at so so look at how rare we are on planet Earth as a species that can do this and attain this level of Technology right now extrapolate that out into the universe out of all the Goldilocks planets like how much life have we found on other planets right now look at look at the variety of of conditions that these goldilock PLS we do know of exist in like the difference in Gravity the difference in the atmosphere most of them are water worlds um some of them are binary star systems so what are the what are the like just looking at the percentage of US compared to all the other catalog species of mammals and and and and um living things on earth species on Earth what are the chances that another species on another Goldilocks zone planet that can inhabit life is going to evolve to look like us with two arms two legs upright walking bipedal hominids with two forward- facing eyes brain on top of the head just like we do I'm glad you asked that's Sobel can tell what the odds are none zero scientists say when the odds of something are occurring are 1 and 10 to the 400th power that is considered impossible so we if we go down to 7eleven and get a lottery ticket and they say one one and 10 to the 400 to mil forget it the odds of our genome forming the way it has formed and I want to talk about how it formed but the odds of that happening are 1 and 10 to the 600th so if 1 and 10 to the 400th is impossible 1 and 10 to the 600th means it's more than impossible that we are the product of random processes lucky biology that there is and as a scientist I have to say the evidence supports not just suggests it supports there's an intentionality underlying our existence that intentionality may be the link to the being from other worlds hire a higher intelligence would and in our ancient texts there are different ways of looking at that are we talking about gods are we talking about angels are we talking about Nephilim are we talking you know the whereever that's a whole conversation the point higher intelligence intervened so as a scientist I have to be careful the evidence strongly suggests intervention of some kind doesn't say who or what but this did not happen naturally now my own personal feelings when I read the ancient texts and I visit all these ancient cultures it's so interesting not one of them not one of the ancient Traditions I've ever been with the Andes and Southern Peru and the the shamans in the Yucatan and Nepal and India the monks and nuns in Tibet I mean bedwin in Africa none of them say that we're the product of a long slow gradual process of random mutations every sing Le one bar none says that we're the product of an intentional act and that we are part of a greater Community whatever we want to call that so now some people say now you're talking about aliens and other people say well you're talking about angels and demons and other people say well you're talking about uh time travelers in advanced civilization we have different ways of describing but the science is telling us we're not the product of random just lucky biology yeah yeah this is like getting into um Sumerian Zachariah siten land with like the anunaki stories you know I knew sich and I toured with him in the I knew him I T yeah I toured with him before before he died uh I was very blessed I toured with in a conference setting I toured with John Mack meio Kaku uh if you study Meo um Zachariah siten Ed Mitchell six man to walk on the moon wow you okay it was and I learned I was very blessed I learned a lot from these and I did Mitchell ever tell you the truth about the moon landing we landed we did oh yeah we definitely landed on the moon may not have happened exactly the way we definitely have landed and we continued even after the program was officially ended Russia and America at that time were the only two superpowers number one the only powers that had the money and the technology and the capabilities of going to the Moon or anywhere else and they agreed not to talk about what they found on the moon now both countries are broke why do you think that is because of what's on the moon what do you think's on the moon well I just want to say now both countries are broke but there are other countries that are not India is sending Shiva one to the moon and China and neither one of those countries agreed to non-disclosure and China has actually said and this is I mean you can't make this up I keep saying this China has said when they land their their Craft on the lunar surface they will broadcast to the world what they what they see so here's here's the thing we sent craft looking for microbes and bacterial forms of life when those craft landed next to archaeological remnants that are over 50,000 years old on the moon on the moon on the lunar surface and when China sends those images back my sense and I I don't have an inside track any longer my sense is that we're going to see structures that are there and I've seen photographs of the structures uh they all the way back to the Clementine missions um that were through Freedom of Information had to be released in 19 I think it was 1990 they had to be released and they did and they pixelated out all of the archaeological structures and some of them are Towers some of them are are long elongated archaeological structures so look at the irony here we are looking for microbes Landing next to temples on the surf on the lunar surface yeah now think about what this means here we are we're in a planet on the verge of global war because we believe our differences are so great that we must hurt one another to solve those differences what would it mean for a space probe from Earth to land on the lunar surface and find these archaeological remnants and find that they're not from aliens from another world but they're from us from another time and I think when they send those images and you see the glyphs on those Temple walls will No Ex exactly what they say because they will be in our root languages uniform Hebrew Sanskrit and Arabic are the four four root languages that uh that I think you'll see when those come back would that be enough for us to look at one another is Nations and say my God look at the great and beautiful things that we did when we worked together a long time ago in the past what could we achieve if we came together right now what could we give to our children and what could we give to our future if we work together instead of destroying ourselves that something like that could be the Catalyst you see there was something that came out in NASA a couple weeks ago I think it was maybe even a month ago where they discovered caves like deep Caverns on the moon yeah they've already found it that that's already I mean this stuff we've had the images uh and I think it's one of the reasons commercially we didn't go back because it causes a lot of problems um and about the dark side like there was also something that came out where they were interviewing in I think it was in front of Congress maybe but they were interviewing the head of NASA and they were asking him about why China is sending Rovers out to the dark side of the moon and he was like ah he was like let him do it we don't care what's we don't care what's back there well the Moon the Moon itself is an enigma shouldn't be shouldn't be where it is the orbit of the moon is unlike any orbit uh of any Moon around any planet in our solar system the multiples the the dimensions the geometry of the Moon the the number of moons between Earth and the Sun the number of moons between Earth and the Moon these are very precise they're integer multiples that doesn't happen in nature all the other planets in our solar system moons typically orbit around the equator ours is offset just enough to give us the the gravity to stabilize our ocean tides and there is geologic evidence to suggest there was a time where we had oceans and no moon and the tides were huge I mean we're talking like 400 foot waves that were coming in and just decimating land uh and there are stories and there are uh indigenous traditions and biblical passages that talk about when there was no moon and and how things changed when the moon occurred now that's not science they're stories right but the uh the geology does suggest they found evidence um of these massive uh tides at a time when there it's believed the moon didn't exist the question is is is the moon a natural Moon Is it artificial or is it a natural Moon that was captured in our orbit from a CL a catastrophic event in our solar system and um all big questions you know to to be answered what what other um ancient texts or anything that you've looked into or ancient religious cults uh have talked about this DNA um this merging of the DNA telm other than like and and and how does I know like the Su what exactly does it say in the sarian tablets and those and those myths yeah this is I want to go back to siten I think sit I have a lot of respect for Zechariah sitan I think he was a brilliant man I think he was a good scholar and he pretty much single-handedly brought to the mainstream I mean there have always been linguists behind the scenes but through his um his his series of books the 12th Planet was probably the one that people read the most uh that brought that to light I didn't and continue to not agree with his interpretation he his interpretation is that we are here because we were made to be slaves right right right my sense from what I have read and what I understand in the ancient Traditions the people I've talked to and in the texts we put them all together is I think very possibly we have been enslaved at a time in our past I don't think it's the reason we're created um yeah there's a whole story we can get into maybe another podcast we can we can talk about that so I I don't think it's the reason we were created and he believed that that was the reason we were created yeah it's one of the most it's one of the most interesting crazy like sci-fi stories that's out there is the story of the Anunnaki coming down and creating us to basically be a slave species to terraform the planet and then they started breeding with us and they somehow wanted us to mine gold well that was his interpretation you know the put in the atmosphere biblical interpretation is that we were deceived into coming to this this world rather in this planet we were deceived into coming into this realm of matter and three-dimensionality uh and that is a form of evil is the deception of the Angels this is the biblical perspective that uh that were deceived into coming to the Earth round realm and captured in matter and three-dimensional bodies and led to believe that there is no other realm that's another interpretation and they you go back far enough and all of the Traditions that that I've seen they all say that we're the product of an intentional act you go into the the Mayan cultures and and the and they talk about the multiple iterations of what it took to create the first humans and how we were created you go into the Apocrypha and the the Gnostic texts and what's really interesting is they never say God created and even the original biblical text doesn't say that God created humans it says Elohim and Elohim is a plural so multiple beings created humans and when you go into the the Apocrypha the texts that were left out by the church uh the first time didn't work multiple iteration s of humans had to be created to hold the power of the soul in the three-dimensional world so another way of saying that is multiple iterations of DNA had to be tested to hold the sound or the frequency um as the antenna to tune us into where we are multiple iterations uh Eve was not the first woman woman that was created and I think we probably have biblical Scholars that may have talked to Lilith according to the text was was the first female yeah that was created from uh at the same time that Adam the first the first human the first man but because they were created at the same time they were like brother and sister right and they weren't drawn to one another it was when Eve um Eve was created and I wasn't there I I just imagine I'll Channel Adam said thank God you know cuz because this beautiful woman appeared and it he didn't feel that it was his kin his his sibling he felt and they were able to um to to be as man and woman right yeah it's interesting that um all of the like the entire Bible there's nothing there's no evidence of anything in the Bible prior to the helenistic period it all came after the Helen IC era which is fascinating and there's literally like like before like during three the 300 the 3dr century BC um and up to like the 2 Century BC is when all these Biblical characters started to get written about like for example Moses there was like two dozen versions of Moses that were written about in the helenistic area that were like in you know preserved in the Library of Alexandria and then that's after after this is when we start to get this biblical narrative to come forth so so like yeah it's interesting and and also when it comes to the Dead Sea Scrolls one of the weird things about that is it's mostly Hebrew right there's Hebrew there's Aramaic there's Greek Greek right but um there's no other Hebrew language anywhere in Antiquity well a couple things F first of all we don't even know where the Scrolls came from they have been attributed to the ases who were a mysterious sect that show up 500 years before the time of of Jesus of of Nazareth um who did not even call themselves Asen they were the Egyptians called them therapute because they knew how to heal and Jesus uh and his mother and her mother were all of the Asen lineage so he was raised in the lineage that understood healing the Scrolls now they were found in Kuman but now they're doing DNA study and the parchment that they're on uh didn't come some of it didn't come from the Middle East so now the question is were the Scrolls created somewhere else and brought to Kuman intact or was the parchment created somewhere else brought to kumran and then the Scrolls were the trans transcribed from the other documents by the ases and we don't know the answer to that right now right for our viewers the the reason this scrolls are so powerful and again you can't make this up this is all 20th century 4647 is right around there the Scrolls were found the oldest records of the Old Testament unedited by the church 45 the oldest records of the New Testament and the Gnostic texts were found in Egypt in nag hamadi a little village nag they're called the nag hamadi library and these are the Lost gospels that the church edited during the 4th Century so now we've got the Gospel of Philip the Gospel of Thomas very controversial MH uh Gospel of Sophia were the women in the Bible they were there and they were Gnostic women uh I mean some of the the female te there's a a text called Thunder perfect mind what a powerful text written by a gnostic woman so within just a few years of the mid 20th century we had the oldest Rec records of the Old Testament the oldest records of the New Testament and the books that had been edited out 43 books had been edited by the church in the 4th century and we had a complete View and then you begin to see why the church omitted some of the text because it destroys the narrative right that has been preserved through what we call the Bible now I think the Bible is is a good book is it complete no right it's not is it selective yes right right yeah one one of the the interesting things about the Bible is like the way we look at Religion Today is vastly different than the way people looked at religion and Antiquity right we look at like people some folks like to look at religion as like hard fact in science right as if like that's what they live by I mean it's one thing to look at it that way and then it's another thing to look at it as like a tradition or a mythology something to that upholds values for you and your community like back then there was like religions weren't exclusive like yism all these other religions were just like people embraced all of them well and they do I when I'm in the Middle East we before uh October 7th of 23 we were leading groups into the holy lands that include Israel include the surrounding areas and we would go into cities and villages were people of all faiths they worked in the same restaurants they lived together their neighbors their friends they the Arabs observe all the Jewish holidays the Jews observe all the Arab holidays which means they get a lot of days off during during the year their kids play together and they know how to live together it wasn't a problem for them right A lot of people when we have this conversation they will acknowledge the Bible is incomplete and they interpret that as the divine divine inspiration that created that led the church to create the Bible as it is because this is the way it's supposed to be this is what they'll say it was and it's uh and there are a lot of ways to to interpret you know what that is but this is one of the overarching themes and again this was the war scroll that says we we are until the end of this cycle that we are in this fundamental battle between good and evil and that the way that we Triumph is by embracing the truth of who we are that's it our and you can read whatever words you want to read into that whether you want to talk about biology or you talk about the word Divinity right so so what we're invited to do is live the best version of ourselves was that that war scroll went what year was that one discovered that was 4 okay that was in the first in cave number one were the first seven Scrolls that were discovered and they were some of the most intact the Isaiah scroll m is the one that's the most intact and if you go to Jerusalem today just outside of Jerusalem there's a museum called The Shrine of the book Museum have have you been there before Oh this is amazing so the museum on the outside is a a white it's a white structure that is made to look like a large version of the top of one of the vases one of the clay vases uh Steve you can probably bring up Shrine of the book Museum mhm if you would please and and I want to show you something on here cool when you go inside the the central part of of the inside the shrine of the book there it is right there okay so there's the outside oh cool so that's the top and then can you there's a a black oblisk next to it can you see if it shows the black oisk next to it there that thing right there lower lower yeah there it is right there mhm this is the symbol between the sons of darkness and the sons of Light that black oblisk represents the sons of Darkness the white represents the Suns of light interesting the first seven scrolls are housed in this Museum oh really and then what you're seeing in the center uh Steve you could enlarge that upper left oh now it's right in the middle yeah right there thank you thank you for the work you're doing behind the scenes what you're seeing here is this is made to look like a Torah scroll and what you're seeing on display is the Isaiah scroll most intact it's wrapped all the way around and that whole structure is designed in the event of a nuclear attack the belief is that the information on the great Isaiah scroll will be the foundation of the the new civilization that emerges from the destruction and it must be preserved at all costs so this entire structure is designed to drop underground into a vault and the lid is a concrete and steel lid that comes over it to preserve the great Isaiah scroll in the event of a nuclear attack for the emerging Remnant afterward to have all the information they need to build the new the new civilization that's how important the Isaiah scroll is believed to be isn't that amazing that's insane yeah and this is where again this is in the Shrine of the book Museum just outside of Jerusalem and then the other scrolls are in the displays that you see around but that's the Isaiah scroll that you're seeing right there what is the signific what's in the Isaiah scroll have you read it oh yeah well I my Hebrew is not the best my Biblical Hebrew I've read the English translations of it in 23 there was a new exhibit inside of here and the only scroll that has ever been found of the Book of Genesis uh the original Genesis was found and at that time it was not in good shape uh it was still rolled and they couldn't unroll all of it without damaging it so we now have technology they can see what's in it without actually breaking it but uh wow that's the uh there's so much the scrolls are important for a number of reasons they're important for certainly for the Jewish people in terms of their tradition but humankind in general because it's in those first five books of the Old Testament Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy that mathematicians and statisticians were able to load them into the computer back in the 90s and run search algorithms called Els electronic skip sequences right uh or letter letter sequences um and what they found when they do that mathematically is beyond random Beyond chance statistically what they're finding is Meaningful information encoded in number underlying the letters of these first only these first five books they tried it right with other books and and it doesn't work so there's something very special about those first five books a deeper meaning below the letters that we read on the page every ancient alphabet yes Barun has always had a number that represents the letter um the science that is called gatria MH and it's not numerology a numerology is a loose subset that doesn't follow the rules in the 2 Century there was a a book the 32 rabinal rules were laid out in the 2 Century determining how gatria can be used as a science and um I've spent a lot of time with this I've got the software uh run run the algorithms and you can't fake this stuff I mean everything that has happened in the past is encoded into into that document they they did the original are you familiar with this have you had guests talk about this okay so roughly bagely everything from all the all the great Wars are in there the countries that entered the wars the years they entered who their leaders were the year the war was over what year the leaders I mean the Assassin Kennedy election of Obama Trump I mean everything is encoded um and the text says that it will be everything that was is or will be is in until the end of time not the end of the world but the end of time is encoded into that text doesn't predict what will happen right it it indicates consequences and outcomes it's almost as if we were given a map of quantum possibilities so that we can query but here's I want to just share the really good news that that I've seen from this during the Cold War I queried and I was studying this during during the Cold War right at the end of the Cold War uh Cold War was over ' 89 and 90 and it was in the early 90s it was the first time that uh Michael drosen wrote the book called The Bible Code was the first time with uh with the the Hebrew mathematicians and if you query Atomic Holocaust uh that only comes up twice in the Cod code and the years for both of those we've already passed so it suggests that we are not I'm not going to say you won't see a limited exchange I think you may see a tactical nuke on the battlefield somewhere but I don't think we're going to see mushroom clouds All Over All Over the Horizon like they show in the movies it it showed 1983 83 was the last year according to the Torah codes the Bible codes that the word Atomic Holocaust uh comes up and it says uh T yeah this is called the Torah codes or the Bible codes it's commonly the Bible codes but it's actually the Torah that's that's being first five books of the Old Testament that's being what who was the guy who first wrote about this um are you familiar with the with the Bible I mean I W be redundant I'm not familiar with with no I've never heard of this before oh you oh okay well I apologize okay so let's start over 1990 uh mid 1990s a man named Michael dnan Michael D that's the name wrote a book called The Bible codes right right and it was based on the the work of uh Eli there a a statistical mathematician who had published in a peer- rreview journal uh an article about what are called electronic letter sequences Els sequences and so here's what put it on the map in the Torah codes it said that the Prime Minister his name was yach Rabin would be assassinated at a certain time on a certain date by a man with a very precise name they took this information to Yak Rabin and said look if you do this speech on this day 3,000 year old book says you're you're going to you're going to be killed so maybe you want to rethink and he said no if it's in the Torah it must be true he went and gave his speech and he was killed on the day at the location at the time of day and the man's name was air Amir and that was all in the Torah codes and that's what put it on the map they said how could this book have predicted that he that this was going to happen so then statisticians they they said well what if he hadn't what if he had postponed so they ran the query you know that he talked on another day and the Tor codes came back and it said assassination delayed indicating it still would have happened but it would have happened maybe another time this goes back about 400 years rabbis have always said that there are hidden codes in the Torah mhm they didn't have computers they tried to figure it out by hand and it's it said by candlelight and and uh you know lantern lights and it said that they went crazy trying to do this so when computers came into Vogue in the 99s those same rabbis said well let's let's do this on the computer so the idea this is gatria every letter of every ancient alphabet has always had a mysterious number associated with it we don't know where they came from they never change Always consistent if you uh the study of cabala uh people know this they often use the numbers and letters interchangeably in in cabala or kabala uh so they took the Torah and converted the letters into their equivalent numeric presentations and loaded that into the computers as an array okay all right and then you can tell the computers beginning with a certain letter you can do what's called a skip code you can say if a skip code is 10 you start with a letter and then you go 10 and then 10 letters down and then that's the next code and then 10 letters down and that's the next and what you find is is an entire word so for example uh in the Book of Genesis uh the first T that you find and I think it's I believe it's a skip code of 10 is O skip code of 10 R skip 10 of skip code of 10 H and it actually says Torah and they said okay well what else is in there so that's what makes you crazy doing it by hand so what they did was a computer and you can you can determine what the SK can be a skip code of 50 or a skip code actually the Torah may be a skip code of 50 I could I may have just done that wrong I then we're going to talk about this uh and I haven't done it for a while you can determine the skip code and what it will do it will search horizontally it'll search vertically and it'll search uh at a diagonal okay uh if you yeah there you go R just going to you're reading my mind so you can see how how these skip codes work okay the key is it has to be entered in Hebrew you have to enter the query in Hebrew so Harold Gans was a CIA IST who wanted to debunk this so he said let me do my Harold Gans gns he said let me do my experiment and there was a very famous experiment that he did where they entered the name of I believe it was 32 rabbis and they said let's see if these 32 rabbis are in there well not only were they in there their birth dates were in there the date of their death was in there the location where they lived in the world their city was in there it exceeded what the analysts thought he was going to debunk it now he's one of the strongest supporters of uh what was happening so it's it's controversial a lot of people don't believe it it's a mystery how could these things happen well this opens the door to another conversation that we can't have today but the conversation is if we are living in ass simulation I think you probably had guests on have talked about virtual realities and and us living in ass simulation have you have you had a guest talk about that if if we are living in a digital a virtual simulation it makes sense that we would have a map of all the potentials within our simulation simulation until the end of the cycle and that's what is believed that the Torah codes were given to the people of the earth 3,000 years ago uh as a map of potentials when we make a choice these are what you can expect as the outcome um Until the End not the end of the world but the End of Time the end of time is the end of the cycle and then we begin a new a new cycle are you familiar with Christopher Dunn I don't get out much so he wrote a book in the like the I think his first book was in the late 80s maybe um called the the Giza power plant I remember that book I didn't I don't know the name but I do remember that book he's an engineer he comes from Aerospace and uh when he first saw the pyramids he thought there's no way this is a tomb he's like oh no he reverse engineered it and he says this is a functional this is a functional machine and his he's revamped his theory and added on to it recently and his newest book is called um the G or the the Tesla connection it's like part two yeah and his idea is that the pyramid the Great Pyramid is a uh a solid state electron Harvester that harvests electrons deep within the Earth and he's even had like NASA scientists that have backed up his ideas with how those stones in there can um help with the electron flow through the Earth and how like you know all those shafts and everything in there they don't make sense it's like that that thing had to have some sort of crazy function to it well it it is based on such Universal principles that it has many functions for that very reason because of its harmonic relationship to the Earth to the energy on the earth to the cosmos encoded into the pyramid the dimensions I mean it's it's directly in the middle of all the land mass of the planet it I mean you probably know all the the stats that go with this I was there in uh 1986 I had uh oh wow I was I was in Egypt and they gave permission at that time they've never done this since to in the Great Pyramid to take a core sample from one of the casing Stones because the question is how did they build this thing um how they get the stones up four 430 ft you know and what they found was so controversial it was published in the engineering journals not a lot of people want to talk about it um because at that time a lot of new age the harmonic convergence was happening a lot of new age stuff people talk about crystals lasers vibration all of which is possible but the evidence doesn't support any of that what the evidence shows is that core sample in natural line the the casing Stones the outer Stones were removed uh mined to be used in buildings and mosques in Cairo and there's only a couple of them left they were beautiful uh polished marble white so what we see today was never meant to be seen by the naked eye it is sandstone or um uh Limestone MH natural Limestone as a geologist I can tell you will have laminations because the way it was deposited it will have Micro fossils uh you know tiny microbial forms of life some kind of shell something in there and what they found the core samples was done to that they found was it was completely homogeneous there were insects air bubbles and human hair that they found in this core sample really what they now believe is that they were built whoever built these used a technology that we're only starting to use today and it was they took the Natural Stone pulverized it mixed it with a matrix of an epoxy and toward the stones in place to get the high tolerances less than a thousandth of an inch between the stones and to get the materials up high they poured the stone and it it dried in place and now they think the same thing happened in Peru at places like oant tambu Machu Picchu um the coricancha things like that and uh it's a very different way of looking at the technology but if that's the case it's more advanced

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