Pam Gregory and Lee Harris talk through 2026, alternating between Lee's monthly energy forecast framing and material channelled in conversation from his collective guides The Zs. Pam notes the regularity with which Lee's forecasts independently confirm her astrological reading.
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I am so excited to be in another conversation with my wonderful friend Lee Harris. And I know all of you out there always love these conversations. So, I can't wait to to dive in with Lee. And for the few of you who don't know Lee, I can't imagine there are many of you out there who don't know Lee. He is an author of several bestselling books. The most recent was The Future Human. He's an energy intuitive channeler, musician. He produces a free monthly energy forecast on YouTube. I always check in with those because amazingly they always correlate with the astrology. You've been channeling the Z's, this collective body um for I think since your 20s. >> Yeah. >> And you have a very active portal which you use for teaching which is really like a kind of modernday mystery school to help people expand their intuition and and awareness. So um Lee is a multi-gifted, generous, incredibly big-hearted being and one of my favorite people in the world. So, I'm thrilled to be here with you, Lee. Welcome yet again. >> Thank you. You are so nice and you are truly one of my favorite people in the world. So, it's always a thrill to to get to work with you as well as be your friend. Yeah. >> Beautiful. So, the way Lee and I thought we would would cover um this time is firstly I'll be asking Lee some questions as Lee, some of which have come out of his um annual 2026 preview. And then Lee's very happy to go into some channeling of the Z's to kind of dig a bit deeper on some of the themes that I think are going to be really fascinating and very very different this year. So Lee, I'd really just like to start with asking you as Lee, what's your view of 2026? What kind of a year do you think this is going to be for us? >> Wow, that is a very big question in a way. I I think there's a part of me that doesn't know how things are going to fully play out. And I do get the sense that all the timelines are shiftable. So depending on how how much we as a collective respond to what's going on in the world, it's going to alter the the course of things to to different degrees. But the main headline that I was given was that this is a year of energetic reorganization. And I think when you think about energetic reorganization, there is often this tendency to think it's a very active doing thing, but usually it isn't. Usually we energetically reorganize ourselves before the outer appears. And so I know there will be people listening to this or watching this who will be very familiar with reorganizing their lives this last year or two. And so this year for them will be a year of actualization, a year of seeing and literally experiencing in themselves some of the new connections they want to experience on the planet. Whether that's with other humans, whether that's relational, and whether that's workbased or friendship based or partnerbased, just going to another level of connection with other beings. Because I think so much of the focus in the spiritual community is often on what you develop in yourself, your own sovereignty, how you look after yourself, what your own spiritual connection is. But at the same time, my truth has always been that we learn so much from relationships. And usually when we go through a shift in ourselves, we actually then need new people to come in to match that new vibration that we have attained in ourselves. And that's its own learning curve and that's its own back and forth dance. So what I do feel as a very strong positive for 2026 is harmony in relationships meaning you will be less tolerant when there isn't. And I know many people who you know get to a certain age and I'm just about I'm 50 next year. So I know I'm on that as a life theme. I know a lot of people say you get to 50 and you just haven't got time anymore. But I actually think that's a world theme. I kind of see that playing I play playing playing out for friends I've got in their 20s or in their 70s. There is a new level that people want to experience on earth which is highly contrasted with what the old world is still trying to sell us, tell us and make us do. And the tension between those two polarities as we know is getting stronger and stronger every day which is uncomfortable for all of us. It can be deeply distressing for anyone involved in any of those tension points. And it can also be distressing for the empaths and sensitives who are watching it play out and wish we could get to a higher timeline quicker without that struggle or that pain or that difficulty or that fight that we see playing out. But that's not how it's going to be. My guides have always said, you know, it's it's not going to be harmonic overnight. But 2026, the reason I'm interested in this next year, and I think you just named it, doesn't feel like anything we've gone through. I think 2020 to 2024 were a particular set of years that my guides always spoke about as a group. Then they said 2025 onwards, you will start seeing evidence of the new world. So what I am expecting is to see more of the old world literally and viscerally fall apart in the next year or two. Um, how that looks, we'll see. And of course, as human beings, a big part of the dance of that is going to be how do we manage our experience of going through that? How do we respond? How do we show up? How do we take care of ourselves when we're overloaded, which I think is a theme many have been working on for years, but it's becoming crucial for these times. Um, and the last thing I'll say is this is something that came through my guides a few years ago. It should feel like the time you were built for. That doesn't mean you like it and that doesn't mean everything about it is pleasing. And trust me, there are, you know, I can't I can't watch television anymore. Occasionally, there's something I can watch. And I crave that nost, you know, like this. [laughter] I sometimes go, "Oh god, I wish I could just sit down with, you know, a movie from the 80s or the '9s and and fully buy into that bubble." Um, and occasionally, you know, you can, but I think there is going to be increasing evidence of those of us who can no longer see the old world as serving us, creating things, solutions, structures, groups, formations. So there should be a lot of energy for those of you who are creators, for those of you who want to help build something new to really stand in that even as we go through some of this global conflict and power dynamics, control, all of the stuff that you could argue could get in our way or could stop us. The most important thing is not buying into that narrative being the end result. And we will be told to buy into that narrative over and over again. And I've even seen it with a few I'm in the UK right now and I've I've glanced at a newspaper at a friend's house just to see what I was like, "Wow, look at all the fear that's programmed into all of these sentences. This is what people are being fed. This is what people are being asked and told to believe." But I am meeting and seeing more people who just can't buy into it. So, it's going to be an interesting next few years where we see the dramatic kind of dissonance between those two polls. >> Yeah, I'm totally with you on every word you say, Lee, with that. Um, I I gave away my television six years ago and I've got a thriving house plant there and I only ever hear the news or snippets of the news when I go down to my local garage to to have to pay for petrol and they've got the radio on all the time and you know it staggers me to think I used to listen to that every day. I used to tune in and listen to that. How much have I changed? It's a barometer for me actually. And when I meet kind of my normal friends and they're worrying about the state of the world, etc., I'll say, "Well, how do you know that's even true?" You know, here we are walking in beautiful ancient woodland. How how do you know that's true? So, yes, I I think there was really quite a I think for me for many of us be interesting to talk to the the Z's later about this. There was quite a sudden change of energy. Although in one sense it's been gradual over the last few years, in another sense there was quite a shift. I think at the end of last year and I'd like to dig into that once you know the Z's come through and you start channeling because it feels at the moment like the the Harry Potter sorting hat in relationships that a lot of relationships are changing because they're much less based on our history with that person and much more based on our on our frequency harmonious frequency or not. We've spotted it's no longer harmonious. just and you know sometimes I'm walking with a friend who I've known for many years and we are literally walking side by side two three feet apart and I know we are in completely different realities because of their worldview and because of my worldview and it you know I don't want to lose them as friends because I love them dearly but it's becoming more and more of a stretch. >> Yeah. And and I don't know if you relate to this, but what I've started to identify for myself is it's the difference between love and fear. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I can be I you know and I have friends I have many you know I would say I don't even know if 50% of the people that I know and love are aligned with my way of seeing things. It's probably more like 20 to 30. And the truth is the the the the handful of people I'm really close to, they're in the 20 to 30, you know, they're the people I can speak to about anything. However, with all of the others, provided we can find a connection point through love, >> I'm okay. >> It's when fear has taken over so much for that person um that I can't meet them there um then it gets hard. And equally, I could look back through the last 30 years of my life and see moments where people walked away from me because I was I wasn't their vibrational reality or need as well. So, I've been on both sides of the equation around friendship. And I think what I've come to value the most is love and [snorts] kindness and people who want to be a part of unity. So, I might meet someone who thinks that what you and I are talking about, Pam, astrology channeling, is a load of old codswallop, as people would say in England. But if we were with them at a gathering and they were the kind of person who was going around uplifting someone or they go, "Oh, can I help with the dishes?" Or they're the people I'm attracted to cuz they're they're team players. They're tribe players. So, I don't mind if someone doesn't believe what I believe. I do really mind if they think that that gives them justification to attack it, belittle it, demean it, because that's that's them using fear of what they don't understand to try and wipe out someone else on the planet that's threatening them. And boy oh boy are we seeing this right now with global conflict. And I think for most sensitive people, people who are awake, people who have a spiritual faith, whatever that looks like, it's the most staggering thing to watch what those in power will choose to do to maintain power at the cost of human lives. And yet, it's often sold to us like we are helping defend our country. But when you dig deeper, that's not actually what's going on at all. there is a there is a grab going on that will benefit those in power and all of th all of the rest of us will suffer and you know a lot will lose their lives and people could be heartbroken and traumatized for generations. So that paradigm I think is the is the hard one to watch and unfortunately it is people's wounded emotions or psychology that they put behind a belief that they will often use to justify terrible behavior on the earth. So it's it's it's an interesting time for sure. It's not you know it's not an easy time. It's not for the faint of heart. But I also think that's why a lot of us have been called over recent years and decades or decade to strengthen ourselves to become more robust and actually to go through a lot of things so that often you can be the person who can be there for someone in an emergency moment cuz it's not your first rodeo and you know exactly what it's like to feel on the floor to question wanting to be here any of the stuff that any of us can talk about in our history. The Z's talk about that a lot. They say that many of us are here to help stabilize the new frequency on Earth for when more people on the planet become more aware of what has been going on for a very long time. It's it's surfacing and surfacing and surfacing and surfacing and then it you know it's often mixed in. A bit of truth gets mixed in with a bit of mistruth and then there's a big distraction over here to try and keep your eye off what's actually going on. So I think you know discernment as ever is is is such an important feature of this time being able to ascertain what feels true to and for you both with people like we were talking about in relationships but also with what's going on in the world and now of course we have fake AI to to to just make it even more complicated for everybody. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, it's very interesting, isn't it? If I if I look back, Pluto fully entered Aquarius in November 2024, but it has a 248-year orbit. And I've looked back historically to the 1200s and the 1500s and the late 1700s and whether it was the the autocratic church or autocratic monarchies or whatever is a where there was an extreme in inequality and a very heavy top- down system to tell the the peasants at the bottom people like you and I you know what to do. um whenever it gets to a tipping point of an extreme as it did say in the French Revolution you know July 1789 the peasant stormed the bastid took down the monarch was beheaded etc. So, it has to get to an extreme inequality, it seems, before there's a real um shift. And I think that's what's happening now. And I'll often say to people, you know, just look at all the ne --- me. I think it is something that has to start within each of us individually and then within our communities and gradually that consciousness ripples through the planet and as you said and the Z's have always said this it can't be stopped uh consciousness is rising but of course therefore so is the kind of tantrum of lowest consciousness really having a tantrum and and and not you know and a very dangerous tantrum Not not it's not to belittle uh that word either because there are things being done right now on the planet that are horrific that people are being allowed to get away with and I think people are beginning to go well hang on a second how is this possible and you mentioned the word peasants and I think there is this gap happening between I think people are beginning to see the the power gap that we have between 90 something% of people on the planet and and and a very very small percentage at the top who have wrangled power for a long time and are not using that power towards oneness which is the other thing you were describing the oneness energy that is now permeating the planet that is going to just continue to permeate the planet and so one of the things that I think is good for people to remember if you're personally struggling right now which is fair enough um I think I had a breakthrough myself when I realized Ed, probably 15 years ago, I first heard the Ziz saying to to groups, you're not here to save the planet. You're not here to save the world. And I think for a bunch of us, that was a bit like, oh, I thought that was what we were all trying to do, you know, a little bit. Oh, let me update that part of my mind. Um, what the Z's have said more recently is, um, serve oneness, serve love, serve connection. That is the part of the world that you can contribute to. And I know for me personally, the more I understand that, lean into it, practice it, because some days you don't always have that in you or you don't feel like you have that in you or you're going through a growth moment where you do something and you're like, "Oh, that was a bit where did that come from?" You know, I need to clean that up a little bit. You know, sometimes you have to act in order to see. I I definitely have that with um people in my life. I'll sometimes notice the way something is said to me or from me and go, "Huh, it's just like a glitch in the matrix." So, I think in terms of our own personal work to continue to lean into that higher vibration of living, it's not a selfish pastime. It will actually become the most benevolent thing you could do. But for many of us who have perhaps been conditioned to do or to save or to help or to whatever your thing is, whether it's cuz you're a parent or whether it's cuz you're a healer or whatever it is, you also have to hook out of that. Uh you know, it's like hooking out of the the the hustle of being a healer. Whether you are a healer for work or whether you are a healer because you are the lynch pin in your family. You are the one who takes care of you're the one who worries about anyone who's not feeling okay. There comes a point when you have to go, okay, this world is a mass of feelings. And it's not my job to um fix or pull someone out of their feelings if they're feeling something. It's my job to work with myself and to be a support or a help or a guide at the right moment for someone in my life or in my work as and when I can. But I also have to do that lightly and then step back into my own vibration so that I also don't get to um you get very you can get very bogged down in other people's stuff much like you can accidentally see the news and go I feel like I need to vomit. Why is that? Why do I why am I why did I have a physical visceral reaction to that thing that I used to watch all the time? The other thing I'll say about that though Pam is it's got worse. Like if we go and look at the newspapers 20 years ago, it would probably look like kindergarten compared to compared to the level of unhidden narcissistic toxic rage that we're seeing play out on the planet. We're we are now aware of the abusive relationship. Before we didn't know we were in it and for any of us who've been in those relationships on a human level, that's such a good description. >> We understand what you're talking about. Yeah. And I think because the [clears throat] the kind of craziness has grown gradually, little by little, it's like, you know, boiling a lobster in a pot. It's been harder to spot. Um, but if you've had a long gap, like I've had no television for six years, boy, is it a is it a sharp contrast. And and I think Lee, I I don't know how you feel about this. I feel that some of us are being called on who are able to keep our own inner stability to help with the stability of energy for the collective because an awful lot of what's going to happen this year because it's going to be so fast moving and so new and so different and collapsing old order and birth of new and you know new light coming in which we'll talk about. There's going to be so much happening as stimulation. One of the most precious things you the most valuable thing you can do is is be in stillness. Drop into zero point. Drop into your breath. So if we've cultivated anybody who's cultivated that kind of practice, you can act as a stabilizer, a kind of lighthouse for others around you when they they're becoming very, you know, uncertain of gosh, the ground's moving under my feet and I don't know what's happening here. Would you share that? >> Uh yeah, 100%. And I I love that you bring this up and and something I feel called to say because this has been my journey with it. It's dropping into stillness is not easy. You know, it's like if you make a conscious decision that okay, I'm going to live with a more more stillness. And I mean, I've gone through various phases of my own life where I've deepened with that. And I'm always struck by how it takes a certain level of I don't know courage with yourself to be able to sit with and be with whatever comes up in your mind, whatever comes up in your emotions because it's a bit like old ghosts of who you were before they leave. They want to get in your face or they want to say, "Hi, are you sure you want to get rid of me?" And you're like, "Yep, I'm definitely done with the cigarettes." You know, if you're a smoker and you're like, I'm going to get rid of and you go, yeah, I feel really good about this decision. Okay, good. It's great to feel good about the decision. Now, let's try the six-month journey of actually stopping the cigarettes. And maybe the first three days are going to be great. And you feel all light and bright and e. But then your system is going to go, "Ooh, I've got some detoxing to do." Not just on a physical level, on an emotional and a psychological level. Because whatever was aligned in your emotions and psychology with that behavior and that habit, I now need to take some time to reverse. And you're going to feel it as you go. So, I think the stillness part is really important. And um I had a someone I work with, uh you know, there's a few different healers I'll work with a few times a year. And she said to me about three months ago when I was having one of my monthly sessions with her, she said, "You've abandoned your feminine by about 30%." Um, and you you your your feminine side has been a bit has been a bit abandoned partly cuz I've been working a lot and there'd been a lot going on. So I just, you know, you carry on you carry on. And she said, "And that puts you right on track with most of the population. In fact, you're ahead." Now to me, I'm, you know, you hear God 30% of my feminine. And I'm like, "Oh god, I'm so sorry." And I've been consciously over the last few months working to balance that and working to be stiller and quieter and have moments where I can just let all of that move through me. But I think I just want to remind people that we I think one of the reasons we don't stick with the practice of stillness or the practice of anything is we forget that it's going to require a certain level of energetic movement with inside us or energetic reorganization. So, I think the gift of this time that we're in, Pam, you and I have been, you know, I think I've a student of spirituality and self-growth for 33 years now. And I don't know if it's the same for you or a bit longer. I'm not sure when you got kicked off on your journey, but God, there's the gift of this time is there's so much support out there. You can think, I want to know how to breathe properly, and you can go to YouTube and type in, you know, breathing meditations and they're all there. Or you can go, is it bad to drink lemon water? This person says it's bad. This person says it's good. And of course, there is no right answer. You've you've got to self diagnose. We're all different with anything, whether it's, you know, any something supplements or practices. And so, I think we are at a time where more of that awareness can be cultivated. And there are definitely things that we can go to like retreats or classes or communal events that have a nice high vibe focus. They can massively help. But we also have our own journey with it and our own inner world and perhaps you know the part of us that used to use television maybe to see a story. And I'm not dissing television by the way. For some people it's it's a very important way of self-regulating. So I don't want to um you know it's very important and there are stories that people find themselves in and but if you're someone who is finding you can't really hook into that anymore there is usually this dry period where you don't it's not like you go oh great I'm just going to start painting and I know for me when I'm going through a big shift I have to go through like an emptying period which is someone who is a natural doer and is capable of doing and making things happen in in the last like 5 years for me leaning into the non-doing has been like a an area of gift and challenge at the same time to my old way of operating. So I just want to give people that too that there's nothing wrong with you if you find it hard. In fact, that's quite normal. There's usually a bit of a period as you're as you're moving through and don't expect there not to be. And just know what you're going to do at the moments you hit the tough spot. Is it that you're going to phone your friend? Is it that you're going to have an accountability partner on this journey? Is it that you're going to put on the most inspiring or funny person? You know, I love comedy, so I still have a few comedians up my sleeve that I can go and listen to and they will make me laugh. So, I I still have that. You know, it's one of the things I haven't lost yet. And who knows if that will go at some point. But yeah, I think um I think it's all about knowing that shifting your frequency, it takes work. And I say that not at all to be negative. Um but to be realistic because I think many of us give up because we think oh this is quite hard and it's like yeah it will be for a little while and then you'll break through >> and you so yeah beautifully said and you sort of then shift into different default patterns because I think we've all been encouraged all through our lives particularly if we worked in business or that kind of thing to operate in a very yang competitive way their wins and losers you know who won the the top sales prize that that you know that season and and we've got to have business goals and we've got to have A B C and D and we've got to have plans and we've we've been encouraged to operate like that very very fully in that yang competitive way but it's shifting now and in a way I think we're moving from that kind of complexity of the busyiness of the outside world and we're being called into something which is which is much simpler if we can develop and you know I haven't cracked it either I've still got L plates on with all of this but if we develop this this default way of whatever feels easy for you. Whether it's just closing your eyes, dropping into your breath, hugging a tree, phoning a friend, hugging a pet, whatever it candle gazing, meditate, you know, have a way that for you takes you into kind of butter melting in the sun in moments. And so you start to cultivate this feeling of I'm living from the inside out rather than the outside in because I'm cultivating my frequency internally before I then step back into the world. And that gives me more mastery and more consciousness of things I'm saying and things I'm thinking even if I'm operating um from in here. So that's I mean that's certainly the journey I'm on and I know many people are on and yeah it takes a little time because it's a big switch. It's a big switch from the the the yang to the yin. >> And and it's interesting hearing you say all of that. It makes me think if anyone's listening to this or watching this and they're going, "Yeah, I like what you're saying, but I don't really know how do I get there." One thing I would recommend is sit down and write out well or stand up, but write a list of all the things that reset you. Now, if I were to write my list, it would be listening to music. It would be water, which for me ideally is a bath or if I'm in California, there's a hot tub and I my favorite is being in water outside in nature. But if I'm not and I I have a shower, a shower will do it, too, because it resets my electrical circuits. It might be um you know relisting to a message from someone I love or now these things are super simple and often we don't talk about these enough in the spiritual world people are like okay do this 45minute meditation I was not someone who ever really cared about meditation I tried it I tried different methods and I always thought I was wrong I always thought oh well the meditators are superior and then I hung out with a bunch of meditators and I thought oh I --- se that can be a barrier. Yeah, that that would be my advice. >> Yeah, that's that very wise words, Lee. Absolutely. I mean, one of the things I tend to do a lot, and I've actually got it on the all free on the meditation page of my website, a 10-minute, it's called the yogic baby belly breath, which is a yogic breath. And it's so simple, everybody in the world can do it, but so often the the external drives our breath and we start to breathe very rapidly and shallowly. But what the yogic baby belly breath does, and as I say, you can just listen to it and, you know, download it. It's an MP3. um it it trains you to drop into the breath and so the breath then starts to drive or change your state of being to operate differently when you go back in the world. So instead of the events driving the breath, the breath starts to change the events in that. So that's >> really helpful. And yeah, so yes, I think those are all great suggestions. For me, I'll often just take my um muchloved um neighbors Labrador out and he and I put the world to rights and and then I'm completely recharged. So, uh that's always great fun. So, and whatever brings you joy, I think. Um whatever brings you joy and we've all got ways of finding joy in our lives and that gratitude list. >> I love that you use that word. So about a year ago, a year or probably about 2022 to 2024, the Ziz my guides were talking a lot about joy and how joy is such an important energy. It heals. It brings light. You know, you think about when you're in a very tragic circumstance or, you know, I've been in those circumstances or end of life with people and it's humor and laughter that will often bring lightness and will cut the tragedy and allow people to open again and open their heart and then maybe they cry a bit more. It doesn't matter because, you know, it all needs to move. And I think in times like this, you have to focus on bringing joy to yourself and or others. And usually the two things go hand in hand because if you yourself are able to keep some semblance of joy running through your life on a daily basis like is there something you did today that made you feel good. It's not selfish. It's actually selfing. It's it's kind of serving others. It's selfless in a way because if you if you are someone who is able to open your heart to others and to give to others then you making sure that you're a full vessel. It's the oldest saying, but it's more true than ever right now. And I think especially because we aren't often given hope in the world, I think our systems and our media and all of that, it tends to be very uh doom and gloom. And really to find true well-being in life, it feels like you're having to go to independent sources these days. It's not happening through mainstream. uh it's independent peripheral sources that are really talking about what is it to create well-being for yourself and what is it to be mindful about well-being in your relationships with others which is such an important learning and I think I think in many ways we've come a really long way. I know we can talk a lot about awful things happening in the world, but to go back to the beginning of this conversation, I also have had some time to reflect in the last week and I'm I'm not recognizing who I was 5 years ago. Aspects of me, yes. And then other aspects I'm like, wow, I just don't even think or feel the same way as I did then. And I think all of us are experiencing that. I think all of us are when you have a chance to notice you're like oh wow it really there is this incredible transformation on earth and I think joy is a a very important engine for each individual that we need to reclaim for ourselves finding the things that light you up whether it's big joy or whether all you can manage right now is peace or calm because you've had a rough time joy is maybe a stretch right now maybe joy is going to come in a few months but getting yourself to peace or calm or ah that was a positive moment in my day. I'm going to celebrate that. I'm going to see that and I'm going to call more of that in. Yes, please. >> Yeah. Because we also know that we there's a lot of research on this now that we infect each other with our energy. And so that is such a powerful invisible tool that you know if we can feel a sense of joy in ourselves, we can actually encourage we can lift other people even without the words. It's just an energy. And in a world that in is constantly encouraging us to be miserable and pessimistic, I think joy and love are acts of defiance. >> I love that. That's so true. And I think that goes right back to what we were saying at the very beginning about oneness. It's like it's our job if you believe in oneness. It's our job to become ambassadors of that more and more. And and and I'm very clear that's the only job I have on earth like that. you know, obviously I've got I've got relationships and contracts and all of that, but but my actual focus, my job, it it's not about the outcome. The outcome's not mine to be in charge of. There's so many of us. It's so big. But if um if creating oneness is something I can do in my way, then that's worthy of time, energy, and effort. >> Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. And I I'm just wondering if this is a a good moment, Lee, to to transition into some channeling. Would Would that be >> Absolutely. That would be great. >> I'm just going to have a little >> Yeah, we'll just give Lee a moment just to uh just to settle in and call in the Z's. I always love this. [clears throat] This is my first channeling of 2026, too. So, it's lovely it's with you, Pam, [laughter] because I've had some time off. >> H good. A pleasure to be with you and your community uh as ever, Pam. And you said something earlier which we will pick up on which is the power of this year 2026. There is an energy of fire and momentum that will move through this year. Meaning uh that some of the slowness of recent years where transformation is concerned uh in the past there was a bit more time needed for things to wake up and shake up in individuals but also in your systems. That time is over. And we know that many of you have been preparing for this speed in yourselves for a while. And many of you have had a strange relationship to time for many years, but especially in the last year or two. It feels even more unreal to you on Earth. And this is a sign that you are on track. It is not that earth is becoming unreal. It is that the old is becoming unreal. The new is coming in. and that has not yet been formed on earth. And of course, there are many who do not want it to form on earth. And so, you find yourself in the middle of the battle between the old and the new. But that is what you all signed up for. You all knew this was going to be the power of this time. And in fact, many of you are what you might call speed or transformation. The slang term on earth for a while was junkies. But we also know that is a problematic term and casts judgment for some around addiction. So we do not mean that in any demeaning way. We are simply using what you all understood. So we will say speed or transformation afficionados. You are here for speed and you are here for transformation. And the only reason you are here for speed is because of the speed of light. Uh light is fast. It moves fast. So the more you get to experience speed in areas of yourself that were previously stuck or slow, you start to align with the frequency of light and you start to become the frequency of light. And then the irony is it will soon reach a point where it will become slower or still. So what might have felt like fast living internally for 2 or 3 years will suddenly reach a point where you stabilize in that level of speed. And we will tell you that the reason we are sharing all of this is this will be a year 2026 where many of those of you listening to this uh will align with what we are describing here. You will find the way to be slower and stiller in ways that you have never found before. Not because you were incapable of it before, but because more of you are grounding the width of oneness frequency on earth. The width of oneness frequency on earth. You have to remember that you are all receiving these downloads vertically. So you might allow your higher mind into your body through the vertical. But once you start putting your higher mind into the horizontal, meaning in the outside world, it would look a little like this. Let's say you have a beloved in your life and you are having some thoughts about that beloved. You are thinking about them. You are a little knotted up inside with what you are churning about uh the relationship dynamic between you and this beloved. Well, this will be the time where you no longer live in silence with those kinds of feelings or thoughts. You will immediately take them to that person and they will be able to meet you there. Now we are aware not everyone chooses romantic relationship but you could transpose this to any kind of relationship. This is a year of speaking your truth not to annoy others or to be a revolutionary although that will be part of it for some. Instead it is getting easier for all of you to be able to speak truth to each other without conflict or reaction in the old way. And part of the reason you are achieving this is you are becoming more aligned with those you should be magnetized to those who represent you and your way of communication your way of being. You see there is no place you are supposed to get to with communication. Uh there is simply resonance. So you might say I am more expressive than I have ever been with my communication and that feels wonderful. and we say good then you will need to find others who are of a vibrational match with that. But there is nothing wrong with your friend who you do not think is as honest as you are because they are finding someone who is the same level of honesty as they are and through that they get to galvanize and stabilize who they are and where they are in themselves now. So you see a lot is changing in the fabric of relating dynamics on earth. And even though this may not seem the most important issue to many on earth, we will say relationship between humans is a key area for all of you. So that includes learning from conflict, learning from different differences, learning from dissonance. You are all in a time where you are beginning to see humanity through new eyes. Understand who you are for, who you are not aligned with, and perhaps who is not aligned with you. This is part of the game that you have to play out to heal past wounds, past attachments, and to rise into the person that you were always designed to be and to be an advocate for yourself in all your relationships and to trust that therefore your relationships will become more truthful and honest and loving and supportive as a result. But for most of you, you only reach this place after a great deal of we would call it work. Well, the younger generations are coming up under the umbrella that is supportive of all of this. So, they are learning to experience it faster than the older generation. But we are always cautious of saying that because there are too many on earth who want to make it the job of the younger generation to save the planet. And we always say no no it is not easy being a young person on earth. Even if you think they are more wired for the future than you are in your 60s, '7s or ' 80s or '9s, that is not actually true. And try and put yourself back into their age group, their time. And remember that you also struggled with things at that age. So unity and harmony between generations and between different groups of people is the goal for Earth in the coming years and decades. And while it will not be achieved all of the time with every person, it will be achieved more and more. And there are many of you who are moving into positions in yourselves where you are becoming an ambassador of this. You may not even change your job. You may have had the same job for 15 years, but ah all of a sudden you start behaving differently within it. And instead of being resisted, you are being received and welcomed by most. And it is the most that you should care about, not all. You only need a handful of these resonances. And not only will you be uplifting them, it will give you a chance to become the next version of yourself. And through that, you model who and what the next version is for others as well as being in relationship with them. Good. With that said, Pam, we will go to any questions you have. >> Yes. Thank you, Ziz. Um, I was thrilled [clears throat] um that in a recent transmission you um had said that Lee had said that we're pulling in the energy from 2028 into December 2025. And I know there was some very big um important energy surges on the 4th and the 21st of December 2025. And I wonder if you could enlarge a little on what you meant about the future energies and and and and anything you can share from your perspective on the 4th and the 21st of December. >> There are different layers of energy that all of you are interacting with on any given day. So let's give you this example. Let's say there are 12 levels above all of your human heads. And this is energy that you are interacting with. So you may not be able to see it or perceive it. Although of course many sensitives can uh maybe not all of it but some of it is usually the case but it is there and it is affecting you and what we would call the 9th to 12th levels above your head. It pertains very much to your future and what is going to play out in the future because it is getting back to the core of your soul when you are in those levels. When you were in those levels, you are back at a position in your energy field that is allowing you to remember your point of origin where you knew everything about what was about to play out on Earth. Now when we say that we do not mean th --- hat is what you are now beginning to see unfold on the planet. Uh just as you are trying to find your way through the myriad of misinformation about that. Uh but there will be a time in the coming we uh will predict the coming two to three years where it will become more undeniable and that will begin in an even bigger way in 2026 and it will start to become more of the global conversation that you are not alone have never been alone and nor are you as humans quite what you thought you were. >> Very exciting. Thank you for that because this feeds into uh what you've been talking about with the cosmic heart and cosmic consciousness that we rediscover and and and reconnect with our galactic family in a much bigger way than we've ever done in recorded history. >> Yes. And it is telepathic in nature. So the cosmic heart is not disconnected from the cosmic mind. You see, whenever you are in the cosmic body, you are aligned. When you are in the human body, you are as aligned as you can be within the current human energy template of the collective. Even the most advanced human being on earth who has, shall we say, returned to their cosmic body in a bigger way than others is still limited because of the frequency on earth. That is what is changing that limitation. where previously the frequency on earth had a gravity belt to it. The gravity belt is being slowly removed and it's important it's slowly removed. It's not good to do it overnight. It would cause too much chaos and destabilization. It is also not necessarily the best way to meet your cosmic consciousness again. So yes, the cosmic heart is a heart of oneness. It's a heart that understands that everything is connected. And because all of you, all of you have been trained to not believe that everything is connected, it takes time to come back to that knowing in human form. And you might say, well, that seems uh remedial to me, for I as a soul know I am vast and I know I am cosmic. And we say, yes, and knowing in the soul realms is all well and good. embodying in the human realms is something else and that is actually the work. The work is to bring your cosmic consciousness down into your human body so that your human body can become more crystalline and more cosmic in its consciousness. So it is a slow process of becoming something different to who and what you were. That's super exciting and and a a slightly more practical question these which you've referred to is that there will be some major economic reset in 2026 which astrologically I can see would move us to a more not equal but more equitable situation financially. Can you expand on on that please? Anything you can share with us that would be helpful? We can and of course the financial reset has been playing out for many years. It is more overt to people now. the lack of control they have over finance and the money. What you would call system, which is a system that has been in place for a very long time, but is moving into a new area of what we might call in the worst case strangle hold and in the best case detonation so that freedom can happen. What we mean by this is what you are going to see is as more people become to use a word you used earlier Pam squeezed uh by certain limits within the system and start to see evidence of uh what [snorts] the plans for the future are for a small group on the planet. They will reject those plans. They will not say yes to what is being proposed, offered and moved in on people. But what we will tell you is it's going to take a certain level of financial restriction for many, not for all, but for many to get on board with realizing they need to take action about what is playing out. So the financial reset will not happen overnight. It will be attempted in ways it has already been playing out over the last particularly five 6 years. It will be attempted that more people have more wrestled away from them financially. And as those attempts are playing out and happening, there will be more groups reporting on the different areas where they are being significantly impacted. And at first many will ignore it. They will think, well, that doesn't directly affect me. But there will come a time when it does. And that will be the moment where those who are understandably afraid of rocking the boat uh will have no choice. They will have no choice but to say not in my name. And so it is going to be a revolutionary time that is required to bring about a more equitable system. The most important thing that is playing out right now is you are being made more dependent on your financial system than ever before. And that is going to be a long-term problem if it is allowed to continue to play out. That is what we see changing. There will be more people who will recognize how unfair things are and will speak to it. And as they speak to it and what they say falls on deaf or aggressive ears, they will realize ah we are not all on the same side and that will bring about a change but it will play out in multiple different ways. It will not be an overnight event. Although we are seeing that in the later 3 or four months of the year of 2026, there is going to be quite a shift around finance. And what you will notice is there will be certain countries that will do well and certain countries that will take a drop. And that will be very much to do with the global conflicts which are currently playing out which are always to do with resources never to do with humans. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> This has been really wonderful. Zeiss, do you have any final message to share with us that will help us navigate 2026? >> Uh we will start with you Pam because you represent so many who listen to you and that is how it works. You are all drawn to a frequency that you align with. uh we will start with you not because it's about you but it's about people like you. So we are speaking to you but we are actually speaking to the group who resonate with you. All of you who are what you might call light workers and there are those who do it publicly like you do Pam. And there are those who do it not publicly necessarily using the internet but in their communities perhaps through words they say advice they give or they are silent but they bring love or frequency shifts to every room they go into. Well all of you will be going through quite the change right now and it might seem a little jarring to some of you. So we will speak to the inner monologue of the light worker of today. the light worker of 2026. And this is not true for those who feel like they're just getting started or just going to another level with how they are a light worker on earth. This is not true for you. This is more for the seasoned among you. So this would include uh Lee also, Pam. Uh you are all going to be changing quite a lot. And as you change, there will be a part of you that will question am I okay to make these changes for myself when I also am aligned with my service light work? And the answer is going to be yes, yes, and yes. You making changes to the rhythms of your work, the way you work. And equally, for those who do not do this for a living, but are instead in amongst people and spreading light through your way of behaving, you are allowed to change the way you behave. You are allowed to evolve. And some of you get stuck in roles because you have helped a lot of people. Let's say you are the lynch pin in a family of 30. You are in a big family with lots of groups and you recognize you are one of the people who holds that family together. You have been the peacemaker in the face of some of the most ridiculous arguments you've ever seen. You might be resigning from that this year and you might be feeling conflict about that. You might think, "Oh, I can't do this because I'm the one that they need." If you catch any of that thinking in your mind, please erase it. Please erase it. You were never put here on earth as a soul to be a slave to others against your will. And this is why when that paradigm of slavery exists on earth in any area, it is vibrationally low. It is vibrationally trapping people from being their best. So you Pam and many light workers including Lee will be going through a lot of change in yourselves because you are also going through these changes that we have addressed for the collective and it will result in you taking different choices in what you do, how you show up, what you say. You will be quicker all of you and bolder all of you in the ways that you show up in ways that perhaps you've never shown up before. Don't be afraid of this when you find yourself shifting. Give yourself permission to make these changes. You will be surprised. None of you are supposed to hold on to how things were. All of you are supposed to embrace how things are going now and what they are becoming. And unless you are leaders of this in your own communities, in your own behaviors, in your own patterns, in your own work, how can the world change? So, uh we will spotlight this for many of you who are change makers, light workers, leaders for your family, your friends, your groups, the places of work, the way you are on the planet as a being. You will find particularly from now January through the end of March 2026, it will be a year of inner energetic reorganization. You will be becoming a new version of yourself that perhaps you've been working on for a year or two, but now it's coming to fruition and now it's coming out. It's okay that people don't recognize you in quite the way they used to. In fact, that makes you a true example of the very transformation you stand for. It's also okay if some of you are dealigning with being there for those in suffering so that you can align with bringing joy and higher frequencies to others more of the time. So many of you as light workers will be feeling a major identity shift internally that we are encouraging you to as it is right and when you feel ready to yes play out on the earth in ways that feel true and good to you. We will leave you with those thoughts in peace in love to all and a pleasure to be with you. Thank you Pam. >> Thank you so much Ziz. Beautiful. Wow, that was wonderful, Lee. Some very powerful information there. Very powerful words for us. >> Thank you. Thank you for facilitating and for having this conversation with me and for as as always having such great great angles to kind of go to. And I definitely I you know, I can hear everything when I'm channeling. And I definitely I I found that last piece interesting. We we'll talk about that personally, Pam, at some point, but [laughter] >> it felt galvanizing. That's the word idea. Really transformative and galvanizing and and exciting. And and this is why we chose to be on Earth at this time. I think we we are going to go for it, >> you know. We're not going to we're not going to mess up one of the greatest evolutionary leaps for humanity, you know. We are going to go for this >> and we can't, isn't it? That that's the that that's the very freeing message that we can't mess it up as individuals provided we keep leaning into everything that we're talking about. That that is the way to to kind of let the fullest version of yourself bear fruit on earth for yourself and for others. >> Yeah, it's been beautiful. Thank you so much for your care, your love, your genius, your channeling. It's been a really beautiful experience, Lee, to be with you. So, >> thank you so much. And Pam, thank you for all that you do throughout the year. You know, I'll be in some hotel somewhere in the world doing some work and I'll think, "Oh, I just need to hear some Pam." And it's funny, it's not just your brilliance with the astrology, which I know we all know and love about you. It's your frequency. And so, you know, if uh yeah, so anyway, thank you for what you do and thank you to everyone who tunes in in your community for everything they're doing. Whether they're doing it, you know, like we do it or whether they're doing it on the ground in a different way, it's all needed. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'd really like to echo that. Thank you to everyone out there. You are all making a contribution in whatever small way, you know, that you may not even acknowledge. You are all doing wonderful work in the world and thank you so much for your your love, your attention, all the love you send to Lee and I um through all the work we do. We wouldn't be doing it without you. For sure. >> So true. >> Yeah. God bless you all. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you've enjoyed it as much as as I have. Certainly. [snorts] And thank you, Lee. >> Thank you, Pam. Thank you everyone. >> Bye for now. >> Open your heart, expand your awareness, elevate your life. 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